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At the moment my independence-fad is kind of high level.

In total DIY mode as with Covid I don't want any tradespeople in the house.

Was wondering if you bought the battery operated silicone dispenser.
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In total DIY mode as with Covid I don't want any tradespeople in the house.

Was wondering if you bought the battery operated silicone dispenser.
I haven't but I would definitely say try a good manual pistol if you've only used cheap ones, the difference is enormous.

(Spoken as someone who bought crappy ones thinking "it's just squeezing stuff out of a tube", and now having bought a good one is regretting years of sore hands and extra work smoothing uneven silicone).
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In total DIY mode as with Covid I don't want any tradespeople in the house.

Was wondering if you bought the battery operated silicone dispenser.
No I didn't and I don't remember how I solved it back in 2018. Maybe wrestled with that bloody thing once more.
It's due again though, thanks for waking the thread.
I found it in tubes (this is grey as I need grey) but did not try it yet.

edit: Sorry, just noticed, "sold out". So the search starts again ...

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I haven't but I would definitely say try a good manual pistol if you've only used cheap ones, the difference is enormous.

(Spoken as someone who bought crappy ones thinking "it's just squeezing stuff out of a tube", and now having bought a good one is regretting years of sore hands and extra work smoothing uneven silicone).
So how do I recognize a good one? What did you buy?
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

Hubby was sent to Obi this morning with a detailed shopping list.
They have 2 silicone dispensers from Wolfcraft. I suggested he buy the one which says the handle is good for someone with smaller hands.

I have never worked with masking tape and I have never seen the tile guys use it. I might consider it. I have to work with transparent silicone (it's for a shower enclosure) and it is really difficult to see.

I've redone the whole thing but I am not happy with my work. I can't test it until tomorrow night to see if I solved the leaking issue. We shall see. I have other projects to test the new silicone dispenser.

I think we need an EF DIY corner
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Hubby was sent to Obi this morning with a detailed shopping list.
They have 2 silicone dispensers from Wolfcraft. I suggested he buy the one which says the handle is good for someone with smaller hands.

I have never worked with masking tape and I have never seen the tile guys use it. I might consider it. I have to work with transparent silicone (it's for a shower enclosure) and it is really difficult to see.

I've done the whole thing but I am not happy with my work. I can't test it until tomorrow night to see if I solved the leaking issue. We shall see. I have other projects to test the new silicone dispenser.

I think we need an EF DIY corner
<handle is good for someone with smaller hands>> yeah, that might already do the trick. Got a link? Is it the one you used today? (Is hubby back yet? These shops can really keep you hanging on, you know )

What do you mean, you're not happy with the work?

I never worked without masking tape, may it be on windows or in baths. With do-it-yourself stuff I'm normally the "don't bother with details and get it done" type but I don't want to mess with silicon. Wish the last pro had used some tape as this was the result (and I have never done this badly myself!)

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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

This.

I'm stunned in a bad way by a quality of finishing works in some apartments and houses in Zürch. I once was shown a "premium" apartment in a new high-rise near Glatt with: shaky electric sockets, uneven ceiling, window sealant coming off at corners, missing sealant around the toilet (an agent told me it is by design, but in another apartment in the same building made by the same developer the same toilet was sealed in every junction), visible curved gaps in doors/doorways, torn off screw heads on several ventilation grills and parts of door hardware. That apartment was certainly a trap for expats and, as was proved later, is below average level here, but it certainly adjusted my expectations about the local craftsmanship's quality back than.
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

Also, regarding the OP and "I don't have the strength"... are you using an old tube? They dry out. You'll get some motion it feels like in the grip, but in reality you're just smooshing together dry silicone.


No tape, and IMO never use the squigee things. I tried once and it was way harder to do than just by finger and feeling it through.
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Also, regarding the OP and "I don't have the strength"... are you using an old tube? They dry out. You'll get some motion it feels like in the grip, but in reality you're just smooshing together dry silicone.


No tape, and IMO never use the squigee things. I tried once and it was way harder to do than just by finger and feeling it through.
If it was old, I bought it old. Can't check now, it's like two years ago. I seem to have done it in the end but I no longer remember how.
You could have a point there.

Always use tape but also finish by finger.
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

A short update. The Wolfcraft silicone dispenser is great. Super easy to use.

The challenge was getting the seams to look perfect. It looks easy in the videos I have watched.

The other issue is the colour of the silicone once dry is much lighter than the end cap on the tube. This just shouldn't be.
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

This "Joint Spatula(s)" product has received good reviews:

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Set-of-4-...%2C221&sr=8-19

Looks handy for getting nice, smooth lines.
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This "Joint Spatula(s)" product has received good reviews:

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Set-of-4-...%2C221&sr=8-19

Looks handy for getting nice, smooth lines.

I've got a set of those. They are excellent - used with or without masking tape depending on the joint.
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This "Joint Spatula(s)" product has received good reviews:

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Set-of-4-...%2C221&sr=8-19

Looks handy for getting nice, smooth lines.
I saw the display with the video playing the other day while I was a Migros Do It.

I have the 3er set from Lugato. I find them too rigid.

I have ordered the Fugenstar.
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Mrs. D, please report on your experience with the Fugenstar when you get it. I thought the others looked to rigid also, and I need to relace a silicone bead behind the sink. Thanks...
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I've got a set of those. They are excellent - used with or without masking tape depending on the joint.
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I saw the display with the video playing the other day while I was a Migros Do It.

I have the 3er set from Lugato. I find them too rigid.

I have ordered the Fugenstar.
Actually, I just went by the colour when writing my post -both were yellow.

I just checked, mine are neither of the above but are made by Broszio and are also yellow.
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Mrs. D, please report on your experience with the Fugenstar when you get it. I thought the others looked to rigid also, and I need to relace a silicone bead behind the sink. Thanks...
I have a set of the Wie Gummi ones - they look much the same but are red, and are about the right stiffness. They're fairly thick in the main part but narrow down to a thin & soft edge, and they've lasted through doing a whole bathroom and around another shower.

https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Fugengl...4/artikel.html
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

Mrs. Doolittle keeps bumping this thread as if pushing me to get it done
In April I managed to resist, yesterday when this thread came up again, I decided okay, now is the time.

The strangest thing: I did it with my same old tool (no problems at all for my hands to handle it), I did use a different silicon though, I chose "wie Gummi" and that was good.

The one from 2018 was a bitch to apply, a bitch to look at and a bitch to remove last night. There was something wrong with that material and I should not have looked for the fault within me apparently.

However, the first line I did without masking-tape. GRAVE mistake! I had to redo it (which is fine, if you do it straight away). When I finished I thought it was not the best job I've ever done with silicon but then my eyes fell on the sink where the pro did it (I posted a photo of it further up a few months ago) and I realized I did an absolutely wonderful job.

I never use these little tools you folks are discussing. They don't work for me. I always use soap water and the finger.

So have fun with yours, mine are done for the next 2-3 years. Thanks Mrs. Doolittle
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Mrs. Doolittle keeps bumping this thread as if pushing me to get it done
Honestly, that wasn't my intention.

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So have fun with yours, mine are done for the next 2-3 years. Thanks Mrs. Doolittle
You are very welcome. Now I feel inspired to get all my repairs done.

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So have fun with yours, mine are done for the next 2-3 years. Thanks Mrs. Doolittle
I don't wish to sound rude but if your silicon joints are failing after only 2-3 years, you may be doing something wrong in the application.

This may include (but not exclusively) -

Not enough sealant in joint.
Jointing surfaces not clean and grease-free.
Bad quality sealant.
Gaps in sealant.
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I don't wish to sound rude but if your silicon joints are failing after only 2-3 years, you may be doing something wrong in the application.

This may include (but not exclusively) -

Not enough sealant in joint.
Jointing surfaces not clean and grease-free.
Bad quality sealant.
Gaps in sealant.
I was also wondering about the 2-3 year comment. That seems like a very short time frame. Our house is 12 years old and I am fairly certain the silicone is from then. For the most part it is fine.
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