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Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

I want to replace my silicon joints around the bathtub. I do that regularly every two-to-three years.

I got this type of tool BUT ...

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..... I don't have the strenth to handle it
The mate who used to do this for me is not around at the moment.

So I found this on the market but it seems messy to say the least (sorry, it's in Dutch but the pictures tell it all):



Then I found this and it seems perfect EXCEPT ....
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.....it's put on top of the old joint which is not what I want at all. Apparently it would not hold on a rough surface - yet the concrete joint underneath of course is rough.

I've done an entire bathroom floor once - 20 years ago, I guess - and it was peanuts. I'm sure I bought the silicone in a simple tube. They don't seem to deliver it that way anymore? Or did I simply not find it yet?

Who knows of a female-appropriate (solely re physical strenth of hands ) silicon-applying system?

Oh, and it must be grey silicone. GREY.

Thanks for your suggestions.
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Old 26.06.2018, 15:47
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Who knows of a female-appropriate (solely re physical strenth of hands ) silicon-applying system?
You did cut the tube open at the nozzle end, didn't you?

You can get battery powered Fugenpistole. There are also air powered ones, but I'm guessing you don't want to buy an air compressor.

The battery ones start at about 100CHF here, perhaps you could find a place that rents them?

The powered ones aren't just easier on your hands, they are also adjustable, so you can lay down a really consistent bead.

Failing that, this one is a bit easier on the hands (but you still have to cut the tube open, otherwise it's really hard to squeeze the handles).
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

The aerosol versions should be fine to use on raw surface, having removed the old stuff. Just like the hand-pumped version you'll need to smooth and finish the application, using something like this but I'm sure you knew that anyway.
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

Every two year
https://www.conrad.ch/de/ryobi-dosie...st-813544.html

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https://www.conrad.ch/de/druckluft-k...c-1268758.html
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https://www.landi.ch/shop/kompressor...wer-24-l_52570
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Old 26.06.2018, 16:05
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You did cut the tube open at the nozzle end, didn't you?


My first thought as well!

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Old 26.06.2018, 16:08
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My first thought as well!

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Curley, mate...........get somebody in to do it for you, far less grief longterm....
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Old 26.06.2018, 16:42
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If Curley goes silent in this thread we'll know.
curley only goes silent if the posts are stupid, so ...... oh hang on .....

I explicetly wrote <<solely re physical strenth of hands>> but I'm glad I had the machos within you enjoy themselves (one would think the football-WM would be enough). Next time you use that tool, remember me and notice how much strenth it really takes. Man, I've been wrestling with that thing
Do I need to answer the question whether I cut the tip off?

So, boys, thank you very much for your reactions. No, I won't buy a compressor, LOL, even though that would overpower the neighbours' noise in the years between doing silicon joints, no? Might be worth a thought then.

The battery driven one looks good. Thanks for the link asitus! At least this way I could just use the normal stuff they offer everywhere.

From the answers I take it none of you really "believes" in the alternatives. Am I right?
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

Ha! € 62.00 from amazon.de. Getting better .....

Every two or three years because I don't like little dots on my silicon. Fussy much? Probably
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Old 26.06.2018, 16:58
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The battery driven one looks good. Thanks for the link asitus! At least this way I could just use the normal stuff they offer everywhere.

From the answers I take it none of you really "believes" in the alternatives. Am I right?
I can't remember the last time I used a hand operated one. I have an air driven one in the shop, and if I need to do something at home I have a small air compressor.

I've used a couple of the battery powered ones and they really are good. I may even get one.

I've used the gas powered Pattex ones you posted above. They're expensive as hell, and (iirc) the Silicone was very runny.

Don't mask with tape like that.

Clean and dry the joint.
Lay down a straight bead with enough material.
Spray along the bead with soapy water.
Shape the bead (either with your finger, or one of those squeegee things) by running it along the bead. Just leave the bits which end up where your masking would have been - the soapy water stops them from adhering.

I use newspaper to wipe the excess off my finger - saving money on paper towels.
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

Curley, my dear, STAWP!

Grey silicon has 100 different tones! And they change name/code/tone according to brand!

They go for stupidly useless names as "Manhattan Grey" to a little more useful "Silver Grey", but you need to check the producer catalogue for the colour you need.

Going for inconspicuous "grey" might turn into disaster. Believe me, I know...

Also, a proper functioning silicon dispenser should be easy enough to use. Are you sure it's properly set up? No rust? No safety pin?
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Old 26.06.2018, 17:43
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

You could buy one and lend it to me every three years, Jag

LOL, Helm, I live here 11 years and it got done several times .... believe me, the grey or the silicon are not a problem.

I know how to do it too - once the silicon is out of it's container, rofl - I've done the windows several times (they are old, get wet all the time in winter - heavy condensation - and look ugly in spring) but for the life of me I can't remember what packaging I was able to get then.

What I'm looking for is a neat and handy way to apply it. I don't know why they don't just sell it in a tube, like toothpaste, with a pointed opening.
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At the moment my independence-fad is kind of high level.

Have a gin and tonic, the feeling should soon pass, if not, repeat until it does
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I use newspaper to wipe the excess off my finger - saving money on paper towels.



I'll pass that tip on to my wife


Why do you say not to use masking tape ?
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

I have used the type of silicone dispenser pictured in the first post for various materials and it really is not that difficult to use. I suspect something is not right with the set up or the tube.

If you would like to borrow mine that's no problem.
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Why do you say not to use masking tape ?
Masking tape has a thickness. When you squeegee the caulking into a masked gap you end up with a raised edge to the silicone when you take the tape off. That edge is as thick as the masking tape you used. Using soap solution as a liquid mask means that your finger/tool glides over the surface easily, leaving a smooth surface, and the edges taper off down to molecule thickness.

It's also almost impossible to mask a straight even gap.

The thing about the paper towels, when you're doing a job where you end up with lots of messy material to clean up, is that you end up using an inordinate amount of paper towels, and the roll ends up being full of glue/paint/silicone/grease. Use newspaper for the worst of it, then when your hands are clean enough to pick up the roll of paper towels without messing it up, then do so.
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Re: Silicone joint replacement - suggestions please

I use masking tape. The problem with not using it as the smear may well be very thin but it is still a smear and can look terrible in certain light as it is impossible to make it straight.

I've used both methods and masking tape method is far superior.
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So....not much more advanced !


I think i'll carry on with Tom1234's method, more chance of getting something that looks like a straight line !

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I've used both methods and masking tape method is far superior.
I find this to be true. I redid the silicon around the bathtub and in one side I didn't use the tape. Yes it was thiner, but there was a smudged curve on the line. It bothered me so much I redid the thing one year later.
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