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I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

Maybe you feel it too after years of sitting at a desk and working with abstract concepts all day long: you want a break, you want to be outside, interacting with the real life.

Any ideas about possible jobs/gigs that one can do in Switzerland so that she stays out of the typical corporate office?

I'm mid 30, I know a basic level of german, better french, gesturing in Italian, with a background in software development. I don't need to earn a fortune, just enough to have a frugal life and most important: stay employed.

The purpose is to have a purpose , to do something really useful and, ideally , outside somewhere, or simply put: not at a desk.

Opinions? Feelings? Is it just me? ...
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sure....till the winter comes...then I would much prefer to be working indoors!
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

I have freedom to do some of my work 'from home' - which could also be on a train, at a cafe, travelling...
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Be grateful you have a job.
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

It's a pipe dream...

There's a load of renovation work going on in the flats opposite me.. I see those fellas every day lugging stuff about. They're sweating like hogs in the heat.. they're then drenched in the downpours.. they'll soon be suffering from cold hands and feet in winter.

Careful what you wish for...
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

forestry?

i can empathise. i feel fed up too. not just of desk job but just working in general.
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Old 16.08.2018, 12:31
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It's probably the majority of people with a desk job. The ones who have to stand directing traffic or handballing cement bags in the pissing rain probably wish they were in a nice warm office.

There are probably some really great jobs. Just not enough to go around. Get yourself a talent.
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

Read the Fi/Re blogs. And act accordingly.


One possible entry point :

https://www.financiallyalert.com/10-...you-must-read/


But keep in mind most of them are US based, Fi/Re is more difficult in Europe, and plainly impossible in some European countries ( NL for instance ...)


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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

Be brave!
I'am sick of looking for job.... That's life :-)
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

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Maybe you feel it too after years of sitting at a desk and working with abstract concepts all day long: you want a break, you want to be outside, interacting with the real life.

Any ideas about possible jobs/gigs that one can do in Switzerland so that she stays out of the typical corporate office?

I'm mid 30, I know a basic level of german, better french, gesturing in Italian, with a background in software development. I don't need to earn a fortune, just enough to have a frugal life and most important: stay employed.

The purpose is to have a purpose , to do something really useful and, ideally , outside somewhere, or simply put: not at a desk.

Opinions? Feelings? Is it just me? ...
You could work as a prostitue or street corner drug dealer. Both these professions are generally outside (unless you get caught, in which case they are inside for possibly years) plus they are considered useful by everyone from travelling businessmen to university students.

Plus generally little training is needed. They are heavily commission based jobs so the more motivated you are, the more you can earn!

What are you waiting for ?
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Maybe you feel it too after years of sitting at a desk and working with abstract concepts all day long: you want a break, you want to be outside, interacting with the real life.

Any ideas about possible jobs/gigs that one can do in Switzerland so that she stays out of the typical corporate office?

I'm mid 30, I know a basic level of german, better french, gesturing in Italian, with a background in software development. I don't need to earn a fortune, just enough to have a frugal life and most important: stay employed.

The purpose is to have a purpose , to do something really useful and, ideally , outside somewhere, or simply put: not at a desk.

Opinions? Feelings? Is it just me? ...
Try changing to 80% or even 60% .... 50%.
Make the most of the free time you gain: Check out your possibilities, start a new, avocational education (forestry for example demands an education/diploma).
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Read the Fi/Re blogs. And act accordingly.


One possible entry point :

https://www.financiallyalert.com/10-...you-must-read/


But keep in mind most of them are US based, Fi/Re is more difficult in Europe, and plainly impossible in some European countries ( NL for instance ...)


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Thanks, I'm aware of the FIRE movement and there's actually (at least) one guy blogging from Switzerland: https://retireinprogress.com/
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

Have a friend who was in the same situation. He switched from being in an office to being a sales rep. Drives around now for work every day and says he likes it (has been doing that a couple years now). You probably have to be a people person, be good at sales, and enjoy traveling/traffic for this type of job, but he had no experience prior .

Have had other friends that started their own business. Some successful, some not.

Also knew people that were ski instructors and such , and travelled around doing those sorts of jobs. Skiing in the winter, surfing/paragliding in the summer.

Also have known 4-5 people that learned how to drive professionally . One person a bus, and the rest semi-trucks . Bus driver was not sooo happy, but said it was okay. Semi-truck drivers seemed happy, but did complain about being away from home/family a lot . The bus driver got free training, and the others I'm not sure if the training was free or they paid ? I know for sure, one of them paid for training.

If you have time, interest , and money you could learn a new skill that can be done remotely or from home as a job. For example, investing or trading .

If your job and boss aren't so bad, maybe you could just stay where you're at and look at some different work options? Does your company offer programs where you can learn more for your current job or learn to do another job ? Are you able to do home office at least once a week ? Maybe even just working from home once a week would make you happier . Can you go to 80% or 50% work ?

Just some ideas to think about ...

**edit*** Also forgot to mention, that sometimes just getting outside of your office can help. Go out for lunch instead of eating at the office. Go on a walk during a short break or lunch time . Have a colleague or a little group that walks together at lunch . It might boost your spirits a little ( as long as the other people aren't complaining the whole time about work ! )

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Thanks, I'm aware of the FIRE movement and there's actually (at least) one guy blogging from Switzerland: https://retireinprogress.com/
He earns more than 250,000 CHF a year though, so he doesn't need to do much to retire early other than not losing all of his income on bad investments
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That guy talks about FIRE because he makes > 200K/year, not because he's a financial genius
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

You said it, Software development, just do it from home or wherever there’s remote access. It’s well paid you just have to be on top of the trends and get out and sell yourself. Otherwise if you are willing to leave Switzerland, you could always become a diving Instructor, give yourself six or so months to train up from learning to instructing and then enjoy life in hundreds of beautiful tropical locations. I did it until my physiology wouldn’t allow it, best damn time ever. Or do an online course like interior design, could be an option?
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

I also work in an office at a desk and if one day I would leave my job to do something that I'm passionate about it would be either in teaching or cake baking .


Before I joined my current company, I sometimes used to help at the Spielgruppe (kids play group) and it was an amazing job! Of course I was not alone, there was the main teacher and I just replaced the assistant.
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Re: I am sick of working in an office, at a desk

Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that we've known several people who left there jobs anywhere from 3months to a year just to travel or do whatever they wanted . Then came back, found a job , and started working again. It was enough for them to be happy again.

Me and DH were actually talking about this yesterday. As a friend quit their job recently, and is looking for another. Seems like people are always in this constant wave of being happy and unhappy with their work. It's unfortunate, but seems to be very common.
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Seems like people are always in this constant wave of being happy and unhappy with their work. It's unfortunate, but seems to be very common.
Why is happiness at work important? Surely it is enough to be employed doing something which is neither dangerous nor humiliating, and receive a regular salary.

It seems like a very First World Problem to me.
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Why is happiness at work important? Surely it is enough to be employed doing something which is neither dangerous nor humiliating, and receive a regular salary.

It seems like a very First World Problem to me.
If you can improve your work life, why not? I know plenty of people with fulfilling, meaningful jobs and they are a lot less monosyllabic about work than I am. Yes they get paid the same and work similar hours, but the difference is they enjoy going to work
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