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Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

Hello there,
I live near Basel and want to get rid of my old piano and get a new one. The pianos I saw in Switzerland are really pricey (having said that, I have not bought a new piano for 15 years) so I wonder if it is also a good idea to look for one in Germany given my location.

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Hello there,
I live near Basel and want to get rid of my old piano and get a new one. The pianos I saw in Switzerland are really pricey (having said that, I have not bought a new piano for 15 years) so I wonder if it is also a good idea to look for one in Germany given my location.

Any advice?

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Whjy don't you go and have a look and let us know, ....given your location
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Don't know where to look in Germany and hence the thread! I have looked in Basel... Any more helpful message?
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Don't know where to look in Germany and hence the thread! I have looked in Basel... Any more helpful message?
Do you already know which one you want? If so just use google to compare stores. Also if the price is of concern do not forget to look at Austria.

In general with these things Germany is cheaper than Switzerland, but Austria is cheaper than Germany.

And you are from Basel so likely to know but multiply German prices with 0.9076 And Austrian prices with 0.9 to get the price after VAT refund and added Swiss VAT
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

Don´t forget to calculate in the price for transporting the piano to you and getting rid of the old one. Depending on how high end the piano is you may get a good deal from the seller.
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Don't know where to look in Germany and hence the thread! I have looked in Basel... Any more helpful message?

Seeing nobody has a clue about what sort of piano you want, nor your budget, it will be exceedingly difficult to give you any other answer


I have heard, although it is only hearsay, some companies have a special place developed for use with computers called "internet" i think and apparently it is fairly easy to look at the special places where they tell ypou what they have to sell and how much these cost.


Some of them even have areas which tell you how to contact them by phone and ask such pertinent questions
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Old 28.02.2019, 14:02
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

My wife paid CHF500 two years ago for her 1968 Swiss Made Burger&Jacobi, plus another CHF160 to have it checked and tuned after the transport.

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my advice is to not buy a piano and buy an electric keyboard instead. a lot easier to transport and sell.
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

Thanks, everyone and you are right, I havenot provided enough info.

My budget is within 10k chf, an upright (though I dream of a grand all my life..). I am not keen on the Japanese ones, I maybe wrong but I own a Yamaha in China and knew a few Kawai and they are all too bright for me. I prefer the European ones. I currently have an 100 yo Beckstein, a 2nd hand purchased 15 yr ago when I was a skint student, if not for some age issues it will still be perfect. The sound is so soft and beautiful... Another reason I thought about Germany because I thought it might be the cheapest place to buy German piano...

Please continue to provide advice! Greatly appreciated!
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Thanks, everyone and you are right, I havenot provided enough info.

My budget is within 10k chf, an upright (though I dream of a grand all my life..). I am not keen on the Japanese ones, I maybe wrong but I own a Yamaha in China and knew a few Kawai and they are all too bright for me. I prefer the European ones. I currently have an 100 yo Beckstein, a 2nd hand purchased 15 yr ago when I was a skint student, if not for some age issues it will still be perfect. The sound is so soft and beautiful... Another reason I thought about Germany because I thought it might be the cheapest place to buy German piano...

Please continue to provide advice! Greatly appreciated!
Lulu
If you love the Beckstein so much you could also take in consideration to use the money for a restoration instead of buying a new one. And it is an instrument so for me emotions are part of the deal.
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If you love the Beckstein so much you could also take in consideration to use the money for a restoration instead of buying a new one. And it is an instrument so for me emotions are part of the deal.
You are right and I thought hard and long about it. Every year I spent 300chf tuning it but I really do think it reaches it is end... I love it but I am not that sentimental. I believe I can buy one with the same beautiful sound, without the peeling paint and forever out-of-tune high-end keys and sticky keys....
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

CHF300 is double what we pay.

If the keys are sticking, have it fixed.

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CHF300 is double what we pay.

If the keys are sticking, have it fixed.

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Yes, every year I have the person fixed the sticky keys but the problem always came back a few months later. Ok, I didnt ask them to make huge effort on it but it is because I think it reaches its age... and it is not the only problem.

Could you pass on the contact details of your piano tuner? 150chf??? Hard to believe...
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Could you pass on the contact details of your piano tuner? 150chf??? Hard to believe...
Alas, he's in Lugano, so a trip to Basel will cost.

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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

I oredered my Kawai ES8 from Musik Produktiv Germany, much cheaper than here in CH...
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

I compared two shops online, one is the Stofflermusik in Basel and one shop in Freiburg, Germany. Comparing the prices of the same model, I would say generally the ones in Switzerland is 500-1000Fr more expensive than in Germany. The cheaper the piano, the smaller the gap...

I will in the next few days give the shop in Germany a call and see how much is the transportation and whether there will be tax refund.

Any further advice is still welcome!
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

I bought a Yamaha silent upright from Musik-Ebert in Konstanz. Piano is great and he offered best price that I could find! Hope this is helpful.
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

I bought a used upright here and paid more for movers than the piano itself. Still really worth it. Would never get an electric, not the same thing at all. But both me and my kid spend quite a bit of time on it, daily. Time to get a new one, again a used one and locally and in a good shape.
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I compared two shops online, one is the Stofflermusik in Basel and one shop in Freiburg, Germany. Comparing the prices of the same model, I would say generally the ones in Switzerland is 500-1000Fr more expensive than in Germany. The cheaper the piano, the smaller the gap...

I will in the next few days give the shop in Germany a call and see how much is the transportation and whether there will be tax refund.

Any further advice is still welcome!
Did you get the ES8 ?
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Re: Where to buy a piano, Germany or Switzerland?

I am a happy customer of klavier-hoerr.de
For 10k, you can get a wonderful new upright Bechstein, delivered and tuned, with all taxes paid and VAT reduced.
Uncomparable with Kawai or Yamaha that cost like real instruments in CH.
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