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I checked at the dechetterie, and paper and cardboard definitely do go together in the same skip, so the letter definitely is wrong
Dunno for your region, but the paper and carton collection is always separate in zurich. Otherwise the combination screws-up the re-cycling process. A quick search on the internet will provide all the details for your area / street e.g.

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/ted/de/...skalender.html

You can even enter the dates into your on-line calendar!

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Old 23.03.2019, 18:31
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When I was a kid in Australia rules were meant to be broken
Yes, and look what a model specimen of humanity you turned out to be!
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Old 23.03.2019, 18:32
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When I was a kid in Australia rules were meant to be broken
Then it's time you grew-up and accepted the consequences
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Old 23.03.2019, 18:37
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Then it's time you grew-up and accepted the consequences

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Old 23.03.2019, 18:40
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But pretty much all of those things would have happened had I driven to the Dechetterie and not put the paper in! And it's not a crime to drive on Sundays.

While that may seem petty, the Sunday recycling rule is part of a larger network of laws aimed at keeping Sundays and nights quiet.





My contribution would be tiny. If Swiss people were that stressed by the sound of a car on a Sunday, hearing some paper drop would really not contribute.

I get it, Switzerland is a different place to the UK, and its attitude to by-laws is at odds with the Anglo-Saxon approach, and I have to get used to that.
Well, maybe that attitude is one reason why people prefer to live in Switzerland rather than the U.K (amongst others )

This attitude reminds me a bit of the World in which we strive to e.g. save water. And then to travel with a UN mission in a place to Kosovo where every 10 meters a car wash exists to clean the all fancy 4WDs which predominate.

It's up to you, but to be honest, the "Anglo-Saxon approach" is losing all credibility day-by-day.
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Old 23.03.2019, 18:45
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I agree with the rest of your post, but that's the only bit I disagree with. I don't think I (probably like most) did know the rules before I moved here. I'm learning them as I go along
Yes, it's hard, completely agree.

But once you learn to live guilt-free, then it has the potential to be a great place to base / live
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Down South, if the city dump is closed you take it in a red, VW microbus with shovels and rakes and implements of destruction to a cliff where there is another pile of garbage. After which you go back to the church and have a Thanksgiving dinner that can’t be beat.

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Old 24.03.2019, 22:47
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Down South, if the city dump is closed you take it in a red, VW microbus with shovels and rakes and implements of destruction to a cliff where there is another pile of garbage. After which you go back to the church and have a Thanksgiving dinner that can’t be beat.
How old are you again?

Do you even understand anything that you've written?

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Old 25.03.2019, 08:10
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Re: Fine from the Police for recycling on the wrong day

Hence the pin-recycling centre inside an anechoic chamber near us that is 1km from the nearest old codgers is off limits on Sundays.

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The little old lady with supernatural hearing who you cruelly wake up from her Sunday mid-afternoon nap while making an almost imperceptible bang as the newspaper hits the bottom of the bin.
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Old 25.03.2019, 08:33
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OP! Any idea how you got caught?
Name and address printed on the papers?

BTW surprised papers are not collected from outside your home on a regular basis...
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BTW surprised papers are not collected from outside your home on a regular basis...
They don't do it here, either.

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Re: Fine from the Police for recycling on the wrong day

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Re: Fine from the Police for recycling on the wrong day

Well, we contacted the police. First of all, they admitted they had got the crime wrong as it were. Secondly, we are going to pay it (technically we have diplomatic immunity through our work and could refuse to pay). It all ends well.
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Well, we contacted the police. First of all, they admitted they had got the crime wrong as it were. Secondly, we are going to pay it (technically we have diplomatic immunity through our work and could refuse to pay). It all ends well.
"Crime" is a bit of an overstatement for this kind of thing, though. Just because the notice was issued by the police doesn't automatically class it as a crime. Minor infraction at best.
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Well, we contacted the police. First of all, they admitted they had got the crime wrong as it were. Secondly, we are going to pay it (technically we have diplomatic immunity through our work and could refuse to pay). It all ends well.
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That was really my problem was the size of the fine. For an infraction, I think a 50 CHF fine would be more appropriate. Hard to say what the appropriate cost is, but if I'm driving without a licence, it's a 20 CHF fine, if I overstay my parking by five hours it's a 100 CHF fine, and if I drove at around 150-160 on the motorway, I'd get a 260 CHF fine. Not sure where I'd place putting paper in a paper bin on a Sunday, but I think it'd be closer to 50.
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Old 26.03.2019, 11:54
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That was really my problem was the size of the fine. For an infraction, I think a 50 CHF fine would be more appropriate. Hard to say what the appropriate cost is, but if I'm driving without a licence, it's a 20 CHF fine, if I overstay my parking by five hours it's a 100 CHF fine, and if I drove at around 150-160 on the motorway, I'd get a 260 CHF fine. Not sure where I'd place putting paper in a paper bin on a Sunday, but I think it'd be closer to 50.
I don't think people get to decide how much they should pay for a fine.
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Re: Fine from the Police for recycling on the wrong day

No, but everyone has the feeling what is the seriousness of a crime. Just saying that 250 seems quite steep for what I did.
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No, but everyone has the feeling what is the seriousness of a crime. Just saying that 250 seems quite steep for what I did.
You don't seem to understand the concept - if it didn't seem steep there'd be no incentive to stick to the rules.

I may happen to feel that a couple of hundred for leaving too much snow on my car roof or forgetting to switch the plates is a bit steep too, and I'm pretty sure that a convicted car thief doesn't think his prison sentence is justified either. Let's just let the criminals decide their own punishments, shall we?

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No, but everyone has the feeling what is the seriousness of a crime. Just saying that 250 seems quite steep for what I did.
It should also tell you how seriously they take disturbances of the peace on a Sunday. It's not England where people do what the hell they like (fly tipping, garden bonfires, all-day machinery etc) on whatever day and screw the consequences, it's a different culture based on clearly defined rules that people are expected to respect.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and accept those boundaries, because short of appealing the fine (which would be silly as you you know you were in the wrong) leaving there is zero you can do about it. Over time you will likely learn to appreciate it.
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