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i'm going to tack onto this thread with a bit of a twist because i think it fits with the themes but let me know if i should start a new thread.

i'm interested in getting primarily into the french alps and italian dolimites this year. though i'd prefer more stripped down campsites like the op is looking for, i'd don't have a problem using the more family oriented / facility ladden campgrounds in these areas of europe to lay my head down at night while i do some power hiking during the day.

i get the sense campgrounds can fill up even in these mountains during the summer in europe.

so my question is do i have to book these mountain campgrounds in advance to make sure i have a spot and if so how far in advance? my guess is july and aug are peak months but what about may, june and sept?

i would so prefer to just be able to NOT book anything in advance so i can let the trip dictate itself to me in real time based on what i discover vs have to be in campground x, y and z on a given night if possible.

also, since some of these areas tend to be a little remote, if i show up to a campground and things are booked in the entire area not just that campground, and i just needs space to set up my tent, will they be cool with it? i'm more than willing to pay for the spot of course.

any first hand experience welcomed. also, my question equally applies to the swiss alps and perhaps austria as well.

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Before and after school holidays is usually no problem without reservation. Except not on weekends. Anyhow better to book.
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Before and after school holidays is usually no problem without reservation. Except not on weekends. Anyhow better to book.

thx for the input. would you know if the late spring to summer holidays are pretty similar between france, swiss and italy or do they vary a lot from country to country?
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thx for the input. would you know if the late spring to summer holidays are pretty similar between france, swiss and italy or do they vary a lot from country to country?
In France the main time is August. And its crazy busy. In Italy they seem to have holidays from June onwards to mid september. Switzerland school holidays generally July/august. Depends on the area in each country. June or September is generally the best time. June can be unpredictable weather wise. September usually more stable
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In France the main time is August. And its crazy busy. In Italy they seem to have holidays from June onwards to mid september. Switzerland school holidays generally July/august. Depends on the area in each country. June or September is generally the best time.

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My experience is more family fun type campsites.. However we've done many of the more remote quiet spots too..

I'd say that if you have your own equipment and it's not some huge fancy tent, you will get a space. Worst case with no electricity or water directly on the pitch, but we've always found something.
We recently had good luck doing this in Aosta Valley-- there are lots of campsites, all of which we could call same day and always had room for a tent. I wouldn't call it 'remote' there will certainly still be RVs camped out for weeks at a time but they tend to keep the tents separate. Plus facilites (i.e. bathrooms) and trash drops which are nice. Bonus is that everyone speaks french and italian with all the benefits of the italian food
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Some local friends have advised me that there is plenty of camping in the rough, just by quietly setting up on the edge of public park land and keeping it clean. They said that occasionally a bored local police will check you out and decide whether to let you continue to spend the night, or whether to tell you to pack it up.
Usually opting to let you spend the night if you don't seem like a nuisance. Apparently you can reason with them, as to actually move you, they would have to involve a higher level of police (Canton?), and the local guys don't want to involve them usually.
They wanted to give me a list of some communities to use, but I am much more hesitant as a foreigner. Has anybody tried it?
I ask because when I was younger I did so in Japan, where I had hitchhiked every prefecture (similar to Cantons), and never had any problems, eventually discovering that mountain shrines were simplest, because if you got up early as the priests did, you wouldn't need a tent, just a sleeping bag, and occasionally you could even get breakfast. School yards (during vacations obviously) were the worst, as you might wake up to a soccer match or curious kids staring at you. Canada was equally good, although often the mounties wanted you to find a campground, mainly because of bears and other wildlife that might want your food... even if locked in the car.
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Some local friends have advised me that there is plenty of camping in the rough, just by quietly setting up on the edge of public park land and keeping it clean. They said that occasionally a bored local police will check you out and decide whether to let you continue to spend the night, or whether to tell you to pack it up.
Usually opting to let you spend the night if you don't seem like a nuisance. Apparently you can reason with them, as to actually move you, they would have to involve a higher level of police (Canton?), and the local guys don't want to involve them usually.
They wanted to give me a list of some communities to use, but I am much more hesitant as a foreigner. Has anybody tried it?
I ask because when I was younger I did so in Japan, where I had hitchhiked every prefecture (similar to Cantons), and never had any problems, eventually discovering that mountain shrines were simplest, because if you got up early as the priests did, you wouldn't need a tent, just a sleeping bag, and occasionally you could even get breakfast. School yards (during vacations obviously) were the worst, as you might wake up to a soccer match or curious kids staring at you. Canada was equally good, although often the mounties wanted you to find a campground, mainly because of bears and other wildlife that might want your food... even if locked in the car.
Some how my post that was on the recent (renamed) campground post was exiled onto this thread. My question is still the same, and I am wondering how other's experiences with camping in the rough in Switzerland is.

Sorry to the OP on the other thread if this sort of camping wasn't what you were interested in.
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Some how my post that was on the recent (renamed) campground post was exiled onto this thread. My question is still the same, and I am wondering how other's experiences with camping in the rough in Switzerland is.

Sorry to the OP on the other thread if this sort of camping wasn't what you were interested in.
Hi Matty, I think they are focused on van camping with facilities on that thread.

I've camped "rough" here more than a few times, usually from a small tent on the back of my motorbike. If you set up late and pack up early many people don't mind. I think they'd quickly move you on if it looks like you're planning to stay multiple nights.
My lovely tent and bike are a far cry from a Bivi and a thumb.
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Re: Camping in Switzerland or surroundings countries

the main guideline is that if you just to overnight it is mostly ok, so you pick up your tent in the evening and pack it up in the morning. Or similar with a van. Of course an usually precaution is to chose a spot that is not too close to houses or on farmed land
Yes, I did learn from my Swiss friends that they do camp a lot and they often disregard the rules:
- mountain areas: I found that Swiss like to camp and grill on the ridge 10 minutes below the Wildspitz, where there is a sign: no camping, no fire
- remote parking lots around Switzerland including those in Valle Maggia where it is to my knowledge forbidden to overnight
- close to the small remote farmers buildings
- around the lakes....
Anyway, as an Ausländer I was often nervous about staying in places or even avoid it, but my Swiss friends were rather cool about everything.
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Thanks for the info. I think before just camping with the kid, I’ll try to go with some Swiss friends and get the lay of the land, so to speak.

I’m assuming winter camping is even more easy in the rough, as less chance of someone to come and check.
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Re: Camping in Switzerland or surroundings countries

Whilst the option is a little more expensive, some communes have huts which can be rented for a day/overnight and allow for setting up a camp. In some instances, you do not even need to live in the commune itself, or it's sufficient to ask a local to vouch for you.

I've spent several weekends with friends at a 'refuge/hut' that we paid to have as ours for 24h and whilst some slept in the hut, others setup tent just outside. These are often fount in woods and at the very least secures you a ground that you will not be evicted from.

Also good for enacting LARPs (live action role plays) if you're in a sufficient large group so as to not cause worry for those who might live close-by, or walk through the woods now and then (as they know the hut and its surrounding can be rented). They also may come with lavatories which is a plus.

Of course, can also cost a hundred francs or so depending on how pleasant the hut/location is.
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Whilst the option is a little more expensive, some communes have huts which can be rented for a day/overnight and allow for setting up a camp. In some instances, you do not even need to live in the commune itself, or it's sufficient to ask a local to vouch for you.

I've spent several weekends with friends at a 'refuge/hut' that we paid to have as ours for 24h and whilst some slept in the hut, others setup tent just outside. These are often fount in woods and at the very least secures you a ground that you will not be evicted from.

Also good for enacting LARPs (live action role plays) if you're in a sufficient large group so as to not cause worry for those who might live close-by, or walk through the woods now and then (as they know the hut and its surrounding can be rented). They also may come with lavatories which is a plus.

Of course, can also cost a hundred francs or so depending on how pleasant the hut/location is.
Yes, we have a few of those in our community! If I didn't live so close, I'd be tempted!
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