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BBQ Gas from DE or FR

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Does anyone buy their bottled gas for the BBQ from France or Germany and use it on a BBQ bought in Switzerland?

Just wondering if itís worthwhile, compatible,etc.

Currently paying CHF45 7.5KG swapínígo type service.
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Old 25.05.2019, 15:39
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Re: BBQ Gas from DE or FR

You can use a Swiss has bottle on an EU grill but not the other way round sure to pressure differentials, however if you are prepared to buy an EU regulator and so it out then you'll be ok.
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Old 25.05.2019, 15:43
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Re: BBQ Gas from DE or FR

It's the fittings that are different, NOT the pressure!

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Old 25.05.2019, 16:00
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Re: BBQ Gas from DE or FR

I it really worth all the time and trouble transporting gas cylinders over borders to save hat maybe a few francs ?
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Old 25.05.2019, 17:47
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It's the fittings that are different, NOT the pressure!

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Interesting because by German bought Weber connects direct to a Swiss has bottle without issue. Swiss grill regulators are 30 mbar whereas EU ones are 50 mbar which seems like a difference in pressure to me.

It maybe that the bottles are filled to the same pressure regardless of country and just the regulators are different I will admit not checking up on that.

Just researched it a bit and according to www.socarenergy.ch they say foreign regulators appear to fit but might not actually make a very good connection.

Can I groan you and thank you in the same post seems I might need to change the regulator on my grill
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Old 25.05.2019, 18:50
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Interesting because by German bought Weber connects direct to a Swiss has bottle without issue. Swiss grill regulators are 30 mbar whereas EU ones are 50 mbar which seems like a difference in pressure to me.

It maybe that the bottles are filled to the same pressure regardless of country and just the regulators are different I will admit not checking up on that.
Pressure is controlled by the regulator, not the bottle, the bottle is what it is, and will vary according to how full it is.

That said, most grill won't care about the 30 or 50mBar, in fact for a while I used an adjustable regulator, and tweaked to to go to 100!

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Swiss grill regulators are 30 mbar whereas EU ones are 50 mbar which seems like a difference in pressure to me.
Swiss regulators don't need such high pressure as Swiss sausages such as bratwurst and cervelat are already cooked when purchased and just need a bit of heating up and charring.

Sausages in the rest of the EU such as French Toulouse sausages, English Newmarket and Cumberland sausages are totally raw and so need more heat to cook, hence the higher pressure.
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Swiss regulators don't need such high pressure as Swiss sausages such as bratwurst and cervelat are already cooked when purchased and just need a bit of heating up and charring.

Sausages in the rest of the EU such as French Toulouse sausages, English Newmarket and Cumberland sausages are totally raw and so need more heat to cook, hence the higher pressure.

Does pressure really influence the degree of heat in a metal barbeque ?
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Does pressure really influence the degree of heat in a metal barbeque ?
I wasn't exactly being serious....
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Re: BBQ Gas from DE or FR

1) The pressure needed is determined by the grill. Read the manual what the suggested pressure or pressure range is.

2) The regulator fitting should match the bottle.
Swiss regulators have a rubber seal, Swiss bottles do NOT have a rubber seal.
German regulators have NO rubber seal, German bottles have a rubber seal.

German regulator + Swiss bottle = NO rubber seal! Gas leak is very likely. BOOOM.

Swiss regulator + German bottle = Two rubber seals. Sealing might not be perfect, its a kludge. Potential gas leak.
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Does pressure really influence the degree of heat in a metal barbeque ?
Yes.

More gas flow = more heat.

More pressure = more gas flow for the same orifice size.

You can also increase the orifice size for more gas flow.

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Re: BBQ Gas from DE or FR

All this talk of orifices and sausages on a Sunday is making my head spin.
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Is that a Swiss regulatorís orifice or an EU regulatorís orifice?

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