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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

I provide services. I like the Swiss customers because you give them an offer and they say either yes or no. With people from other places they begin to nick and dime.
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

Today the carpenter told me that he goes to court. I am but confused what to do.

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I asked for a high level idea of cost.
When he sent me high level cost then I told high level Idee offer is good and he can visit my home then we can discuss more.
Then he visited and we discussed design and all. Them I told that I will discuss with my wife and then get back to him.

He started work without any confirmation from my end.now he says I have to pay 900chf otherwise he goes to court.
I told him as this is misunderstanding so better to settle up and finish this off. But he says pay 900 or come to court.
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Old 08.12.2019, 21:49
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

What work did he carry out without your knowledge and how did he manage to do that?

Iím confused. In your first post you mentioned that it was the quote he was charging for and now itís to do with work he did?

Can you give a fuller picture of what happened? You might get some more useful advice if you can provide more detailed info.
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

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Hi all,
I went to Ofri to check carpenter offers. Many carpenters visited my apartment and gave final offers.
One of the carpenter was forcing me to take his offer. I didn't like his offer anyways so I rejected it.

In frustration he send me a bill of 900chf and mentioned that he came to my house and prepared offer. This is bill for that.
Now no where I confirmed him that to get an offer he will charge me 900chf.
All the other carpenters who visited home just gave offers.
Only one guy cheated. What to do next with the bill?
Is not the same as this.

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Today the carpenter told me that he goes to court. I am but confused what to do.

Sequence:
I asked for a high level idea of cost.
When he sent me high level cost then I told high level Idee offer is good and he can visit my home then we can discuss more.
Then he visited and we discussed design and all. Them I told that I will discuss with my wife and then get back to him.

He started work without any confirmation from my end.now he says I have to pay 900chf otherwise he goes to court.
I told him as this is misunderstanding so better to settle up and finish this off. But he says pay 900 or come to court.
The part in bold could be regarded as accepting the offer.
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Old 08.12.2019, 22:04
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

Well this topic took a twist..

Unless you will write down a full story of what actually happened, nobody here will be able to give you any proper advise, and thanks to your incorrect OP all previous advise can be trashed.

Great job
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

Please note, most of the traditional Swiss Schreinerei's start working on the basis of verbal agreement or your nod. They might send you an offer over email and if you call them and say it looks all fine, they will start work. I have seen that happen.

Usually an initial offer is free and from your latest post it is evident you guys had more than one meeting and that gives him the opportunity to invoice you for his time spent.

How about you give him the contract and he might consider scrapping this time spent on preparing offer? Negotiate and get the job done you previously intended to hire him for.
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Last night he video called on what's app and shouted for 2-3 seconds and then switched off.
Also sent me a what's app message that he will find contact of my firm where I work and lodge a complaint with my boss
Umm wtf... you have now blocked his number, right? Threaten to call the police as what he is doing is now crossing some lines.
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

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Today the carpenter told me that he goes to court. I am but confused what to do.

Sequence:
I asked for a high level idea of cost.
When he sent me high level cost then I told high level Idee offer is good and he can visit my home then we can discuss more.
Then he visited and we discussed design and all. Them I told that I will discuss with my wife and then get back to him.

He started work without any confirmation from my end.now he says I have to pay 900chf otherwise he goes to court.
I told him as this is misunderstanding so better to settle up and finish this off. But he says pay 900 or come to court.

so you lied in the first post? what was the point of that??? you sound like a total nightmare
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Old 09.12.2019, 13:06
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

OP: Just pay up as you're partly to blame and look at it as a lesson learned.

I've just had to pay SFr. 250 on a speeding fine on a street where it used to be 60 kph but has recently changed to 50 kph. I found out the hard way.
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

Actually it's s misunderstanding that carpenter had that I confirmed it. But I told him that I will discuss this with my wife and get back to him.

Best is that I settle with him and close this topic.
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

How did things go, keepsmiling? Did you and the carpenter reach some sort of settlement agreement, in the end? Is there closure, and if so, do you have a document to prove that the matter is over?
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Re: Carpenter Cheated: Sent invoice of I didn't accepted his offer for Almirah

I had the same problem with a carpenter, claimed 2000chf...
Ending up paying him a bit, just for my peace of mind.
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