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Looking for help in finding a St Bernard breeders to purchase a puppy and bring it to the United States
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But please do some investigation into what it means to be a St. Bernard companion for a few decades. Particularly if you have hot summers and warm Spring/Autumn seasons. Perhaps another breed would be better.
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Why when you can easily find a breeder in the States?

https://saintbernardclub.org/looking...eeder-listing/
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Why when you can easily find a breeder in the States?

https://saintbernardclub.org/looking...eeder-listing/
I used to work in aviation.... sending a dog by air is a really scary experience for them... more so for a puppy! There is also a small chance they may not survive for example if the hold heating is forgotten to be switched on! Donít put a dog through that if you donít have to!
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But please do some investigation into what it means to be a St. Bernard companion for a few decades. Particularly if you have hot summers and warm Spring/Autumn seasons. Perhaps another breed would be better.
Decades? Max 1 decade if you're lucky.
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Go buy a cuddly toy St. Bernard, far better value for you
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...or wait till after Christmas then rescue one of the thousands of puppies dumped when the novelty wears off.
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Can be difficult to find the right one when you looking for fashion accesories
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for example if the hold heating is forgotten to be switched on!
Urban Myth. There is no pressure bulkhead between the passenger cabin and the hold, it will be a little colder than the cabin not will be at least 12C. More likely 14-18C
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Urban Myth. There is no pressure bulkhead between the passenger cabin and the hold, it will be a little colder than the cabin not will be at least 12C. More likely 14-18C
Unless they get the heating wrong.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/20/family...flight-report/
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Ah, New York Post ... well thatís just got to be true.

If it was that hot in the hold, it would have been hotter in the cabin.
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Ah, New York Post ... well thatís just got to be true.

If it was that hot in the hold, it would have been hotter in the cabin.
It was in other newspapers as well. Still, at least don't do this if you travel with your pet in the cabin.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/u...rnd/index.html
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Some breeds of dogs shouldnít travel by air. Putting an animal in the lockers is just plane (PI) stupid, which United acknowledges.

Most network airlines have a long history of shipping live animals and, if they follow the rules, 99.9% of the time everything goes well.

Just look at that KLM Jumbo heading to Mexico City when the volcano spewed ash into the flight paths. Because they were carrying horses, as well as passengers, they turned around and went back. The animals safety came first.
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Some breeds of dogs shouldnít travel by air. Putting an animal in the lockers is just plane (PI) stupid, which United acknowledges.

Most network airlines have a long history of shipping live animals and, if they follow the rules, 99.9% of the time everything goes well.

Just look at that KLM Jumbo heading to Mexico City when the volcano spewed ash into the flight paths. Because they were carrying horses, as well as passengers, they turned around and went back. The animals safety came first.
I must admit I found that report strange because I wouldn't expect them to ship horses on a passenger plane. Usually it's a cargo only plane. For one thing the grooms would want to be near the horses so they could look after them during the journey.
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Just look at that KLM Jumbo heading to Mexico City when the volcano spewed ash into the flight paths. Because they were carrying horses, as well as passengers, they turned around and went back. The animals safety came first.
Firstly, horses are different to dogs. they can't fit in the lower hold of an aircraft, so they must go on the main deck, either on a combi aircraft (where the main deck is part passenger part cargo), or on the main deck of an all cargo aircraft. They are in the same conditions as passengers and have a groom or vet with them at all times in case of problems. I sent Emus on the main deck of a combi once, that was cool.

Secondly, I can't imagine why volcanic ash would affect horses on a plane more than humans. If a jet engine ingests volcanic ash, it stops..... that is why it will have turned back.

After putting many dogs onto planes myself.... and after each time saying to the flight crew several times "don't forget about the dog", I wouldn't ever put my own through it.

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KLM had an incident with a brand-new B747-400 in 1989. Ingested volcanic ash over Alaska and was forced to land at Anchorage. No-one injured by engines trashed and many internal systems contaminated by the fine ash which is both abrasive and acts as a lubricant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLM_Flight_867

Aircraft sat on the ground for 10-12 months while Boeing took the aircraft apart and put it back together again. The cost was more than $80 million.

KLM is very aware what ash can do to its engines and that is why they didn't proceed to Mexico City. The aircraft could have landed in Canada or the US but neither the passengers, nor the horses, had documentation to enter either country. In addition only a few airports will accept live animals. They couldn't just stay on the aircraft either. So they turned around over New Brunswick and flew back to Amsterdam
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I am not sure any responsible breeder in Switzerland will sell you a puppy for export. Putting a puppy on a plane is just cruel. Better to look for a breeder in the US.

But why a puppy? You have heard of Facebook, right? There are several St. Bernard facebook groups with dogs needing adoption in the US. Many rescue organizations now use Facebook rather than their own websites to rehome dogs.

You will find there are dogs of all ages needing homes. Of course there are St. Bernards in Switzerland who need homes as well but most rescues prefer to rehome a dog in the same country or nearby when possible.
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I am not sure any responsible breeder in Switzerland will sell you a puppy for export.



Some time ago my parents bought two Bernese Mountain Dog puppies in Switzerland and brought them back to Canada. So at least at that time Swiss breeders were willing to sell for export.



The dogs were fine and didn't seem to show any lasting ill effects from the flight. But I would agree that flying must be a traumatic experience for a puppy
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For the average dog owner, there is no reason to purchase a puppy from a breeder thousands of miles away and put the puppy through the trauma and potential danger of shipping.


You should always meet the breeder, view the puppy rearing station, meet the mother (and father when possible), and observe the other dogs in the breeder's care.

A two sided assessment is needed. You need to assess the breeder for ethics, expertise, and quality of breeding and early socialization program. This takes background research and you must personally travel to the breeder.

At the same time, the breeder needs to assess you for whether you are a good fit with the individual puppy, can provide the kind of home needed for the breed and individual, whether all family members are truly on board with the decision to bring a dog into the family and whether you, and all family members, are truly ready to commit to the dog for the dog's natural lifetime.

All this becomes difficult, not to mention expensive, when long distances and international travel are involved.

A responsible, ethical breeder will sell a puppy with a clause in the contract that if you are at any point of the dog's life unable to care for him you return the dog to the breeder or involve the breeder in the decision to rehome. This important protection for the dog is complicated when there are matters of international contract law - not to mention the shipping trauma again.

As you should already know, Swiss law does not allow a puppy to leave his mother before 56 days, 8 weeks old. It is considered even better practice to allow the puppies to stay beyond that, sometimes until 12 weeks old. This is for the critical early socialization needs of the puppy.

At 8 weeks a typical St Bernhard is already approaching 8kg, at 12 weeks well beyond that - meaning the puppy plus crate will be heavier than allowed in cabin, the only choice will be to go in the cargo hold. Do not underestimate how traumatic this can be for so young a dog.

Why on earth would you set about getting a puppy in the most difficult way, setting a young puppy up for a potentially traumatic experience that could have lasting effects?

Whatever 'cachet' you imagine comes in owning a Swiss-bred Saint pales in comparison to considerations of the welfare of the puppy. You - and more importantly your pup - would be far, far, better off if you look for a responsible, ethical, knowledgable, experienced breeder in the US.
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