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Buying kitchen appliances

So I after punching a hole in my kitchen ceiling. I decided I should go the whole hog and replace the entire kitchen.

Since I live in Basel, there may be an option of buying across the border and saving money. Is there a place anyone would recommend to buy built-in appliances (fridge, freezer, oven, dishwasher, etc.)?
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Don't the Swiss kitchen appliances typically have a smaller size?
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So I after punching a hole in my kitchen ceiling. I decided I should go the whole hog and replace the entire kitchen.

Since I live in Basel, there may be an option of buying across the border and saving money. Is there a place anyone would recommend to buy built-in appliances (fridge, freezer, oven, dishwasher, etc.)?
Plana in denzlingen are good.
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Don't the Swiss kitchen appliances typically have a smaller size?
Yes sometimes which is why it's better to buy abroad, standard size 60cm units & appliances will always be cheaper than special Swiss 50cm units & appliances.
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Don't the Swiss kitchen appliances typically have a smaller size?
Yup. Planning to build to 60cm standard.
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Yes sometimes which is why it's better to buy abroad, standard size 60cm units & appliances will always be cheaper than special Swiss 50cm units & appliances.
aka "Euro-norm" and "Swiss-norm"...
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Yes sometimes which is why it's better to buy abroad, standard size 60cm units & appliances will always be cheaper than special Swiss 50cm units & appliances.



Swiss are even more anal, they are 55cm wide which is just enough to make life difficult (ands expensive)
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I used mp-hausgeraete.ch when we fitted out our kitchen about 4 years ago.
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I used mp-hausgeraete.ch when we fitted out our kitchen about 4 years ago.
Standard Swiss prices, though. Around 30% more expensive than buying the same product online in France (and I assume Germany).#

https://www.mp-hausgeraete.ch/de/ges...k25e203eu.html
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Re: Buying kitchen appliances

I have been through this a number of times with clients over several years, despite trying toppreise.ch , nettoshop.ch (which is owned by Coop I think) always wins pricewise with a couple of cautions. As with all online shops they do not carry any stock themselves but draw from the manufacturer's warehouse so stock levels on the website/supply times are a guide only. So I go old school and make a telephone call to confirm BEFORE I order and then have never had a delayed delivery. Siemens/Bosch are my preferred brands and models are interchangeable so whatever is cheapest/best but generally Bosch for laundry and Siemens for kitchen.

If you are planning a new kitchen then the biggest problem with Swiss kitchens is appliance size, using separate built-in fridge and freezer allows you to go floor to ceiling and 90cm wide ovens and cooktops are only marginally more expensive than 60cms. I can project manage this for you if it gets too hard.
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I used mp-hausgeraete.ch when we fitted out our kitchen about 4 years ago.
Their prices are good but they are not based in Switzerland and very difficult to reach by phone.
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Swiss are even more anal, they are 55cm wide which is just enough to make life difficult (ands expensive)
Actually the 55cm is a much older standard than the European Standard, also the 55 cm makes more sense when it comes to build-in equipement as for using the available space. Also the Swiss were much smarter than the rest of Europe when it comes to height

Appliances that can be bought in 55 and 60cm are btw the same, they just switch the front. Cabi^inets here had a height of 76,2 cm which excluded the stands and such, making it very simple to swap something, in the rest of Europe they said 90cm including stands causing a huge variety in cabinet and appliance heights. And for coolers often extra planks to fill a gap had to be used.

And while Europe decided about 15 years ago to finally introduce a standard the Swiss simply said "/care, we have a good system, and if people want 60cm they can do so if they please"
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Actually the 55cm is a much older standard than the European Standard, also the 55 cm makes more sense when it comes to build-in equipement as for using the available space. Also the Swiss were much smarter than the rest of Europe when it comes to height

Appliances that can be bought in 55 and 60cm are btw the same, they just switch the front. Cabi^inets here had a height of 76,2 cm which excluded the stands and such, making it very simple to swap something, in the rest of Europe they said 90cm including stands causing a huge variety in cabinet and appliance heights. And for coolers often extra planks to fill a gap had to be used.

And while Europe decided about 15 years ago to finally introduce a standard the Swiss simply said "/care, we have a good system, and if people want 60cm they can do so if they please"

I think you'll find the width is different, whilst they maybe the same machine technically speaking, the width is different.



Try fitting a 60cm in to a Swiss kitchen chassis and see what happens
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I think you'll find the width is different, whilst they maybe the same machine technically speaking, the width is different.



Try fitting a 60cm in to a Swiss kitchen chassis and see what happens
Appliances that can be bought in as-well a 55cm model and a 60cm model are most often the exact same machine, just with a different front.
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I think you'll find the width is different, whilst they maybe the same machine technically speaking, the width is different.



Try fitting a 60cm in to a Swiss kitchen chassis and see what happens
I think what he meant was, for example, a Swiss-made 60cm wide built in oven can have the same size interior (capacity) as the same manufacturer's 55cm oven but with a 5cm wider fascia.

I have seen this before in the past but not sure it is still the case.

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So I after punching a hole in my kitchen ceiling. I decided I should go the whole hog and replace the entire kitchen.

Since I live in Basel, there may be an option of buying across the border and saving money. Is there a place anyone would recommend to buy built-in appliances (fridge, freezer, oven, dishwasher, etc.)?
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I used mp-hausgeraete.ch when we fitted out our kitchen about 4 years ago.
i like the website as you can easily filter/narrow based on a number of factors including height of the unit!
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Since I live in Basel, there may be an option of buying across the border and saving money. Is there a place anyone would recommend to buy built-in appliances (fridge, freezer, oven, dishwasher, etc.)?
It's perhaps worth mentioning, re-reading your original post, that if you use the cdiscount online shop, which I've found gives pretty much the best prices you'll find anywhere, you can get them delivered to the Géant in St. Louis
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It's perhaps worth mentioning, re-reading your original post, that if you use the cdiscount online shop, which I've found gives pretty much the best prices you'll find anywhere, you can get them delivered to the Géant in St. Louis
useful to know about the delivery option to Geant.

there's definitely savings to be had, although if i have to drive to geant and possibly go through customs to pay import VAT, it could be too much hassle.
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useful to know about the delivery option to Geant.

there's definitely savings to be had, although if i have to drive to geant and possibly go through customs to pay import VAT, it could be too much hassle.
Reclaim French VAT more than twice the Swiss VAT, worth 10 minutes I would have thought.
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