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Old 24.09.2020, 16:22
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That link does describe how the Republicans under GB2 kept the supermajority despite getting filibustered by the Dems on their judicial picks and it was the Democrats who got rid of the supermajority under Obama when they got challenged by republicans.

So you are in effect complaining that there should be a supermajority when it was the Democrats who removed the requirement for them to be one! That's literally a have your cake and eat it approach. To the extent there is a lack of clarity (minimal and only relating to whether a supermajority is required), it has been caused by the democrats - who really shot themselves in the foot.

Can you explain (other than the supermajority change enacted by the Democrats), any way at all in which the rules are fluid?
See there you go. That’s your takeaway from the article. Weather has changed.

McConnell changed the rules for SCOTUS. That’s what we’re talking about. Get your head on straight.
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See there you go. That’s your takeaway from the article. Weather has changed.

McConnell changed the rules for SCOTUS. That’s what we’re talking about. Get your head on straight.
Hey dude - peace - we will just have to agree to disagree. As a peace offering I'm removing my retaliatory groan on your earlier post.

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That link does describe how the Republicans under GB2 kept the supermajority despite getting filibustered by the Dems on their judicial picks and it was the Democrats who got rid of the supermajority under Obama when they got challenged by republicans.

So you are in effect complaining that there should be a supermajority when it was the Democrats who removed the requirement for them to be one! That's literally a have your cake and eat it approach.
They explicitly left scotus nomination out of that. The problem was that executive branch nominees were not being appointed. Get it together.
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Old 24.09.2020, 17:56
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Wow, I have to admit, I became quite emotional watching Trump listening to the crowd yell "vote him out" while visiting her coffin - it doesn't even seem real:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...nsburgs-casket

Why did she have to leave us now?
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Old 24.09.2020, 19:17
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If Trump has a mandate simply because he's the current president, despite having lost the popular vote, then Obama had the mandate in 2016, having handily won both the EC and popular vote. Either way the hypocrisy is maddening and your previous post was full of problems.
stop this bs popular vote bs. lukasenko won the popular vote in belarus for sure, does this make him a legitimate president?

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Exactly. But the rules are not clear and perhaps should be clarified.
yes, wait for the new justice and ask the court to clear them... seriously!!!

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Uh, I wasn't the one making claims of a mandate. And, uh, Democracy. Popular support matters.
sure - then go ahead and suggest abolition of 52 states, have one parliament and one person one vote system.

let me know how far you get with this proposal.

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Actually, no, there are no clearly defined rules stating that a president cannot appoint a Justice during an election year; it's only been a tradition in the past. However, that didn't stop Mitch McConnell and other Republicans from blocking Obama's nomination of Garland in 2016 simply because it was an election year. In fact, they blocked him because he would have given the Supreme Court a Democratic majority, but they said that their justified reason for blocking him was because it was an election year; and again, that was 9 months prior to the actual election.

So now here we are in yet another election year and another open seat in the Supreme Court, but clearly Mitch McConnell and other Republicans now think it's just fine for a president to elect a Justice to the Supreme Count during an election year -- and just weeks before the election, no less -- and when that appointment will give the Supreme Court a Republican advantage and further offset any balance that may have been in place.

If you're not able to see or recognize the hypocrisy there, it's because you are viewing it through the lens of your own bias. Clearly, Republicans think that they are entitled to do something that they demanded Democrats were not entitled to do themselves. And coincidentally, that is one of the signs of being a sociopath.
likewise - why does the dog lick his balls?
because he can.
and no hypocrisy in doing it either.
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Old 24.09.2020, 19:35
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stop this bs popular vote bs. lukasenko won the popular vote in belarus for sure, does this make him a legitimate president?



yes, wait for the new justice and ask the court to clear them... seriously!!!



sure - then go ahead and suggest abolition of 52 states, have one parliament and one person one vote system.

let me know how far you get with this proposal.



likewise - why does the dog lick his balls?
because he can.
and no hypocrisy in doing it either.
Nonsense. You clearly have no idea about any of this. Or you don’t care about accuracy. Either way, not worth the effort.
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Old 25.09.2020, 11:02
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sure - then go ahead and suggest abolition of 52 states, have one parliament and one person one vote system.

let me know how far you get with this proposal.


considering there are 50 states, not very far I'd guess
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Old 25.09.2020, 11:48
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considering there are 50 states, not very far I'd guess
I'm guessing that guy is St2lemans's 13 year old nephew who just did a paper on Belarus, or else St2lemans himself while drunk. Why else would anyone actually have thanked that ridiculous comment?
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stop this bs popular vote bs. lukasenko won the popular vote in belarus for sure, does this make him a legitimate president?
He didn't won the popular vote, he used his control over different government institutions in Belarus to get the result of 80%.
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Old 25.09.2020, 22:07
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He didn't won the popular vote, he used his control over different government institutions in Belarus to get the result of 80%.
I would not bet on this. Maybe not 80, but over 50 for sure.
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I would not bet on this. Maybe not 80, but over 50 for sure.
Congratulations, you are either one of Lukashenko's cronies or you have a rare opportunity to magically see the well hidden truth.
You are also sure about things, you don't have any data about.
I envy you your simplistic beautiful life, where you don't need "facts" because you already have "opinions". Those opinions you wield as an invincible weapon, to eradicate anyone asking for facts. All hail to the "man of 21st century", future is yours, you won the internet.
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Old 25.09.2020, 23:31
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considering there are 50 states, not very far I'd guess
Wasn’t it Obama who supposedly once said he’d been campaigning in all 52 states - after which it became a bit of a running gag ?

Edit , nope , that was 57 states
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you don't have any data about.
am sure you do, puppet.
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So it seems it is true - she is nominated.

Trump kept his word to keep the gender balance unchanged.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/u...eme-court.html
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Old 26.09.2020, 12:27
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There was never any doubt that Trump would nominate a woman, he said as much months ago.

In fact, Amy Coney Barrett was on the short list for the last two nominations, but Trump said he was 'saving her for Ginsberg'. One assumes his intention was a sort of a poke in the eye to Ginsberg's legacy, as Amy Coney Barrett has shown her ideology to be quite antagonistic to the cause of equal rights.

Her backers have one goal: Overturning Roe v Wade. Which, as in my previous post, many fail to look beyond abortion to understand that legally this is something of a battering ram to strip away the personal privacy rights upon which Roe v Wade was built.
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There was never any doubt that Trump would nominate a woman, he said as much months ago.
Then the credit goes to him. I find it of utmost importance that there is an equal gender representation in all spheres of public life, and is good that the POTUS recognizes that.
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There was never any doubt that Trump would nominate a woman, he said as much months ago.

In fact, Amy Coney Barrett was on the short list for the last two nominations, but Trump said he was 'saving her for Ginsberg'. One assumes his intention was a sort of a poke in the eye to Ginsberg's legacy, as Amy Coney Barrett has shown her ideology to be quite antagonistic to the cause of equal rights.

Her backers have one goal: Overturning Roe v Wade. Which, as in my previous post, many fail to look beyond abortion to understand that legally this is something of a battering ram to strip away the personal privacy rights upon which Roe v Wade was built.
To be honest, I have had the same fears, since learning that she will (most likely be) nominated. But then I stumbled upon some articles recently that contain past statements of hers in regard to abortion rights which do seem to offer a slight glimmer of hope in terms of the preservation of Roe versus Wade. From what I've read at least, she does seem to be in favor of laws regarding late-term abortions but not necessarily to overturn Roe versus Wade. And she does claim that she personally finds abortion to be "immoral" due to her Catholic beliefs but that she also feels that her personal beliefs and the Church's teachings should not interfere with the law. For example:

What Is Amy Coney Barrett's Stance on Abortion Rights and Roe v. Wade?
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultur...wade-abortion/

"If I am confirmed, my views on this or any other question will have no bearing on the discharge of my duties as a judge."

"Later in the article, Barrett and her co-author conclude that Catholic judges should try to keep the Church's teachings and the law separate. "Judges cannot—nor should they try to—align our legal system with the Church's moral teaching whenever the two diverge. They should, however, conform their own behavior to the Church's standard," they wrote."

I guess we'll just have wait and see if she lives up to those statements once she actually is a Justice of the Supreme Court. It's easy to talk to the talk, I guess.
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To be honest, I have had the same fears, since learning that she will (most likely be) nominated. But then I stumbled upon some articles recently that contain past statements of hers in regard to abortion rights which do seem to offer a slight glimmer of hope in terms of the preservation of Roe versus Wade. From what I've read at least, she does seem to be in favor of laws regarding late-term abortions but not necessarily to overturn Roe versus Wade. And she does claim that she personally finds abortion to be "immoral" due to her Catholic beliefs but that she also feels that her personal beliefs and the Church's teachings should not interfere with the law. For example:

What Is Amy Coney Barrett's Stance on Abortion Rights and Roe v. Wade?
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultur...wade-abortion/

"If I am confirmed, my views on this or any other question will have no bearing on the discharge of my duties as a judge."

"Later in the article, Barrett and her co-author conclude that Catholic judges should try to keep the Church's teachings and the law separate. "Judges cannot—nor should they try to—align our legal system with the Church's moral teaching whenever the two diverge. They should, however, conform their own behavior to the Church's standard," they wrote."

I guess we'll just have wait and see if she lives up to those statements once she actually is a Justice of the Supreme Court. It's easy to talk to the talk, I guess.
I have read other articles on Barrett basically attesting that her interpretation of the law overrides her faith. Interesting, as Kavenaugh, has not voted conservative as most would have predicted but more moderately. Perhaps she will do the same? One can only hope!
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Then the credit goes to him. I find it of utmost importance that there is an equal gender representation in all spheres of public life, and is good that the POTUS recognizes that.
Yes, it is nice to see more females in government, but at the same time, I don't think that someone's gender necessarily equates to them being a decent person or someone who will fight for more equality or more civil liberties and individual rights. I think there are more important issues on the table right now in terms of "equal representation" in the US government, and particularly if Trump is re-elected and the GOP keeps control of the Senate, especially considering the fact that the Supreme Court is now even more conservative.
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