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Old 19.01.2021, 22:08
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I think all resorts are open in Graubunden too actually. Kanton Schwyz had their slopes closed for a while, I think. St Gallen too. There was also an avalanche death in Klosters over the weekend.
All have been open since end December. And yes, Graubunden never closed.
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Old 19.01.2021, 22:11
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Re: Skitouring & Splitboarding - not lookin' good for 20/21 season

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which pistes are closed?
Today 25 Out of 106 were closed in Verbier/ 4 valleys, I suspect plenty of stuff was closed in other resorts, very common after heavy snow
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Old 19.01.2021, 22:14
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Re: Skitouring & Splitboarding - not lookin' good for 20/21 season

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I think all resorts are open in Graubunden too actually. Kanton Schwyz had their slopes closed for a while, I think. St Gallen too. There was also an avalanche death in Klosters over the weekend.
Whilst all resort may be open, not all runs are open
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Old 19.01.2021, 22:25
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

A little bit here

https://www.bluewin.ch/fr/infos/suis...it-543025.html

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/eight-s...-days/46298610
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

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Avalanche risk was 4 which is HIGH, spontaneous avalanches will occur, they should not have been off piste.

Couloir skiing is dangerous as you likely have no escape route.
Good to see you posting - I saw this on the bbc website and knowing the lack of tourists and your love of verbier and off piste skiing was worried for a second.
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Old 19.01.2021, 22:39
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

At 20min.ch they name him as Jamie Clark ... ?
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

The conditions are very dangerous at the moment. While I do understand that that is part of the thrill, shit does happen.
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Old 19.01.2021, 23:29
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Re: Skitouring & Splitboarding - not lookin' good for 20/21 season

Please remember the SLF bulletin are only predictions based on a set of measurements. Local variations like snow moved by the wind or previous smaller avalanches may end up accumulating considerably more snow than the level measured in snow stations. Good knowledge of the local mountains under varied conditions is essential.

Someone even managed to die in an avalanche in Jura near St. Imier, so ignore than tale about no risk in Jura.
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Old 19.01.2021, 23:41
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As it happens most people die when the risk is 3, you are right it dropped this morning

Still spontaneous avalanches on steeper slopes when 3, a large group adds to the risk due to the extra weight on the snow. 10 people in a couloir WTF!
Yes and it was even on the general news how high the risk of avalanches going off even without human interference is!!

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Please do share the details as and when you get them. As said, worried about many friends.
If they are your friends, call them!

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Good to see you posting - I saw this on the bbc website and knowing the lack of tourists and your love of verbier and off piste skiing was worried for a second.
Me too! But the 3rd post was by fatmanfilms so the worry was short.
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

Reading the news on BBC, I was also worried that it could have been someone we knew from the EF.
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...ef-38-23346281

British Chef, 38, killed in Swiss Alps avalanche while skiing
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Old 20.01.2021, 01:21
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

What happened to the first post? izzt89 shared a great insight from personal experience. Depending on the risk tolerance of skiers, the insight may even be an accurate prediction.
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Old 20.01.2021, 12:12
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What happened to the first post? izzt89 shared a great insight from personal experience. Depending on the risk tolerance of skiers, the insight may even be an accurate prediction.
I don't see any merges or anything in the thread history, so I assume a ninja edit by Axa to include more info before the link.
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Old 20.01.2021, 12:18
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I don't see any merges or anything in the thread history, so I assume a ninja edit by Axa to include more info before the link.
This was the original thread, don't know why we got moved here without copying the first messages

https://www.englishforum.ch/sports-f...21-season.html
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Old 20.01.2021, 12:54
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Re: Skitouring & Splitboarding - not lookin' good for 20/21 season

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Please remember the SLF bulletin are only predictions based on a set of measurements. Local variations like snow moved by the wind or previous smaller avalanches may end up accumulating considerably more snow than the level measured in snow stations. Good knowledge of the local mountains under varied conditions is essential.

Someone even managed to die in an avalanche in Jura near St. Imier, so ignore than tale about no risk in Jura.
Of course,, risks can be anywhere. And in the Jura, some slopes are below huge limestone cliffs and circles- but the locals know where it is safe, normally. At Métabief Mt d'Or, on the French side- they have been controlling/dynamiting large accumulation and corniches of snow- even though the resort is closed. If people go touring near those areas, they are indeed taking just as big a risk as in the Alps. Their snow clearing actions were well publicised in the local press, TV and at the resort.

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Old 20.01.2021, 14:45
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

Another good rule of thumb:

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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

Any loss of life is terrible, but I would be lying if I said that I can drum up much empathy for people I read about who lose their lives as a result of not following basic safety precautions. Running up mountains to do sports in dangerous conditions without checking avalanche risks or following safety advice, or even without having the required skills or experience, is just daft. Most of these are avoidable deaths.
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Re: British expat(?) killed in avalanche

To some extent- it is their prerogative and choice.

Where I do strongly object, is that rescue teams have to go and risk their own lives- and often lose them too- fathers, sons, mothers and daughters, wonderful dedicated people - because of the stupidity of others. And the recurring debate- should rescue teams go out and put themselves at risk, when people clearly went against all advice, all common sense, all experience, all history of the local area and season layers, etc. And my answer is- the rescue team should discuss it before going, and refuse to go if that is their assessment.

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I don't see any merges or anything in the thread history, so I assume a ninja edit by Axa to include more info before the link.
Ace1 shuffled some posts about including a couple of mine. Although I think they were moved IN to this thread.
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Old 20.01.2021, 18:22
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Re: Skitouring & Splitboarding - not lookin' good for 20/21 season

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Whilst all resort may be open, not all runs are open
Most slopes and lifts are open:
https://www.flumserberg.ch/de/Flumse...ffnete-Anlagen
https://www.engadin.ch/en/slopes-tracks/slopes/
https://disentis-sedrun.graubuenden.ch/en/node/43
https://www.titlis.ch/de/live/offene-Anlagen

Last weekend, the people were really considerate and kept large distance between them while waiting to get up to the snow. Not.
https://www.fm1today.ch/ostschweiz/s...-ein-140662872
https://www.nau.ch/news/schweiz/ries...biete-65853371
https://www.20min.ch/story/skigebiet...g-824775705727
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