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Old 03.02.2021, 17:02
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Re: Hunting Boar?

I rarely have seen them, but I regularly see the damage they do.

They have no natural predators (other than humans), and have been out of control for decades.

Plus, they taste great!

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If overpopulation bothers you so much, why not start by controlling human population and nature exploitation first?
Meh typical short-term sentimental thinking.

Four points.
  1. Humans have more value than deer or boar. It's not like they're endangered. Animals quite happily kill other animals who encroach on their territory - even animals of the same species.
  2. Human population will peak in the next few decades and go into decline
  3. When we spot a dinosaur killer asteroid approaching or having figured out how to predict nearby super-novae/gamma ray bursts, who's going to save the fluffy bunnies?
  4. Mmm. So very tasty.
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Spinal, if you manage to go through the whole hunting licence rigmarole, I'd be happy to get some boar off you.

After looking into it more, it seems that between the two cantons near me (ZH ang AG), AG would be better...


That said, there still is a 1-2year hunting course to complete, which in itself makes sense (don't want to let loose random armed nutjobs into the fields/forests, as well as getting an understanding of what/how you are killing something).


What is an issue is that this is only offered in German, which in my case would be more of a challenge than I can cope with right now... Already working on an MBA, Cat.C driving license and pilot license all concurrently... while having a full time job


So this one may need to wait a while...
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Old 04.02.2021, 08:46
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So this one may need to wait a while...
Shhh, if you manage to poach one, I'll buy some off you but it'll be at a lower price.
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Old 04.02.2021, 09:47
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After looking into it more, it seems that between the two cantons near me (ZH ang AG), AG would be better...


That said, there still is a 1-2year hunting course to complete, which in itself makes sense (don't want to let loose random armed nutjobs into the fields/forests, as well as getting an understanding of what/how you are killing something).


What is an issue is that this is only offered in German, which in my case would be more of a challenge than I can cope with right now... Already working on an MBA, Cat.C driving license and pilot license all concurrently... while having a full time job


So this one may need to wait a while...
Oh no, the problem is not that it is offered in German.... it is that it is delivered in Swiss German (Like the beekeeping compulsory course for beekeepers) A pilot license in CH? Man, you must be filthy rich... much cheaper to get it in USA.
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Old 04.02.2021, 10:13
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Oh no, the problem is not that it is offered in German.... it is that it is delivered in Swiss German (Like the beekeeping compulsory course for beekeepers) A pilot license in CH? Man, you must be filthy rich... much cheaper to get it in USA.
I completed the course in December. The textbook and tests are (obviously) in german, but the course was about half and half, Swiss german to german, depending on the presenter that day.

I'm pretty sure (but not 100% sure) the course isn't a prerequisite for passing the test, if you can memorize everything in the 400 page textbook. That said, it's a very interesting course with an interesting mix of presenters. (An ornithologist, a police officer, a biologist, a farmer, a head of the forestry department, a dog trainer, a falconer, a lawyer, and obviously some hunters) I think there were quite a few people just taking the course without the end goal of becoming a hunter.

I found the course absolutely fascinating, after completing it I now have a habit to go for my dog walks with binoculars and guidebooks to identify birds and plants, and also started scent training with my springer. You learn plenty about animals in general, such the different birds of prey, waterfowl, the protected species, etc.

Thanks to the ornithology presentation I even went and borrowed a proper lens to go take some photos of birds, like this one:

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Old 04.02.2021, 11:06
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Meh typical short-term sentimental thinking.

Four points.
  1. Humans have more value than deer or boar. It's not like they're endangered. Animals quite happily kill other animals who encroach on their territory - even animals of the same species.
  2. Human population will peak in the next few decades and go into decline
  3. When we spot a dinosaur killer asteroid approaching or having figured out how to predict nearby super-novae/gamma ray bursts, who's going to save the fluffy bunnies?
  4. Mmm. So very tasty.

  1. I don't value humans more than other animals. I would have same issue stabbing a human as say a dolphin or a pig. Furthermore, I will only kill if my life was in danger, so self-defence only. Humans are not an endangered specie either, why not farm them too. I hear the meat tastes just like chicken
  2. I will believe when I see it. Boar population will peak in 2133 years time and then decline. Boar Gods told me
  3. Makes no sense, it is like your neighbour wanting to sleep with your wife, and her refusal resulting in the answer- "Who will save you when the asteroid strikes."
  4. Fat, bloody, stinky and cruel. You are welcome to the saturated fats
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Old 04.02.2021, 11:08
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  1. I don't value humans more than other animals. I would have same issue stabbing a human as say a dolphin or a pig. Furthermore, I will only kill if my life was in danger, so self-defence only. Humans are not an endangered specie either, why not farm them too. I hear the meat tastes just like chicken
Pork, nothing like chicken at all. Some of the wilder humans might even taste like boar.

EDIT: Apparently more like veal, so maybe a more/less ethical way of getting veal?
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Old 04.02.2021, 11:16
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Pork, nothing like chicken at all. Some of the wilder humans might even taste like boar.

EDIT: Apparently more like veal, so maybe a more/less ethical way of getting veal?

I eat neither so all the same for me

The Guardian-"If you've never had human flesh before, think of the taste and texture of beef, except a little sweeter in taste and a little softer in texture. Contrary to popular belief, people do not taste like pork or chicken."

Sounds YUMMY! So "ethical", "humane" human meat farms! I mean if they are bred purely for meat, then what is the harm, right? Just label the meat "humane" or "free-range" and all will be good
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Old 04.02.2021, 11:20
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So "ethical", "humane" human meat farms! I mean if they are bred purely for meat, then what is the harm, right? Just label the meat humane or free-range and all will be good
You wouldn't want to farm them, that could be seen as cruel, you'd want to get them in the wild, concrete jungles.

This is all sarcasm of course, before anybody accusing me of supporting "long pork".
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Old 04.02.2021, 11:22
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You wouldn't want to farm them, that could be seen as cruel, you'd want to get them in the wild, concrete jungles.
Now we are talking, I am in

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Old 04.02.2021, 13:12
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A pilot license in CH? Man, you must be filthy rich... much cheaper to get it in USA.
but of no use in CH... no-one will rent you a plane here until you have completed, as a minimum, the Swiss legal exam portion of the Pilot course and navigation/handling of a plane in the Alps. Also, I believe from the American version you need to convert it (and do a conversion course... that kills any cost savings).

Where in the states you usually have wind coming from one direction, here the wind tends to come from 2 or more directions in the valleys... makes for some interesting shear wind at times as well...

My instructor found a "light side breeze" to land in, and when I was filling out paperwork, that was pretty close to the rated limit for the C152...
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[*]Mmm. So very tasty.
I agree they're very tasty. For the record, I used to be the biggest meat lover. One of my favorite dishes were pork and San Daniele.

But then I learnt the reality of what is happening to these animals. As for pigs, all of these are done without anesthetic:
1. male piglets just days old get castrated (basically so it remains more tasty) Thankfully, in Switzerland as of 2010, this is only allowed under anesthesia but in most other countries, this is not the case.
2. teeth pulling (to avoid them biting each other and cause infection due to stress being crammed in tight spaces)
3. tail docking (cutting or burning off): same reason above.

My boyfriend once in a long while opts to eat meat in a restaurant (here in CH), but only after making sure where the meat comes from and only if it is from a Swiss farm (usually says on the menu) or the restaurant staff explains it.

Not bashing or criticizing - but truly wondering: can you still enjoy meat knowing the horrible reality? I felt like a hypocrite, loving my dog like family, and to ignore the suffering of other animals, who are even more intelligent than dogs.

If you really want your boar meat, I'd prefer the OP's route of wanting to shoot it cleanly himself, least amount of suffering and at least it had a good life till the last moment.


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I'm sorry, but has Armie Hammer entered this thread?

As for eating non-humans, I follow closely this lovely couple on YouTube who live off grid in Sweden and raise all of their own animals & love and care for them dearly. They were former vegans, who became ill from being vegan and decided to live their life the right way.

In one of their vlogs, they show the butchering of their two pigs, who were raised entirely for the purpose of providing food for them for the entire year. I did not want to watch, but decided to do so. They led them to the butchering pen with their favorite food, and as they are eating, they stunned them with a quick stun gun death. What was most shocking to me, was when the brother pig didn't even flinch when his other brother was killed ... he just kept on eating & hanging out all through the butchering process of his brother nearby. These were pigs who were raised well their whole lives together and felt care and love from their farmers... You hear all of these things from the PETA & vegan brigades about how intelligent & social they are etc. etc., but witnessing this honestly changed my perspective and I enjoy eating my well raised bacon far more now.

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What is an issue is that this is only offered in German, which in my case would be more of a challenge than I can cope with right now... Already working on an MBA, Cat.C driving license and pilot license all concurrently... while having a full time job
Are you on a bucket list challenge where you want to get any license there exists?
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They were former vegans, who became ill from being vegan and decided to live their life the right way.

What was most shocking to me, was when the brother pig didn't even flinch when his other brother was killed ... he just kept on eating & hanging out all through the butchering process of his brother nearby. These were pigs who were raised well their whole lives together and felt care and love from their farmers... You hear all of these things from the PETA & vegan brigades about how intelligent & social they are etc. etc., but witnessing this honestly changed my perspective and I enjoy eating my well raised bacon far more now.
If you become very ill being vegan, that means you didn't do your research before what your body needs. There are plenty of vegan/plant based people who are doing it the healthy way. (and there are also ill and unhealthy people who eat meat, so my point is, meat eater or plant eater, healthy or not goes both ways. And I'll say it again, I am not vegan

Sure, a pig who has lived a good life and gets killed instantly, I see no problems with it. My issues are with the piglets that go through the mass process I showed in my previous post.

I am not a PETA supporter either but maybe the brother pig didn't notice it as it was done so quickly, in a non-gruesome environment. I have seen videos of a pig trying to save another pig from being slaughtered. I follow so many animal related videos that no one needs to convince me that these cattle animals are not intelligent or have no feelings.

But anyway, back to the topic...
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Are you on a bucket list challenge where you want to get any license there exists?

LOL, no... pilots license takes a while... I'm not a patient person... so I started another project (overland expedition vehicle) at the same time...



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EDIT: Apparently more like veal, so maybe a more/less ethical way of getting veal?
I thought the taste depends on the age.

We need a tasting event.
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. I hear the meat tastes just like chicken
Pork, nothing like chicken at all.

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Nothing unethical about veal - crate raising was banned across Europe decades ago.

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I thought the taste depends on the age.
And its environment. Farmed "wild boar" tends to be much softer in flavour and texture than hunted animals, and yes, just like with domestic pigs, young individuals have much lighter meat with a sweeter flavour.

But it's all more like pork than any of the other meats mentioned, IMO.
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Nothing unethical about veal - crate raising was banned across Europe decades ago.

Nothing unethical about pulling a baby permanently away from its mother, so you can murder it for milk and meat?
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