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Spinal 01.02.2021 18:53

Hunting Boar?
 
I've been looking for boar meat as my usual source (a hunter by the airport) seems to have stopped.


That got me thinking, I have a fair selection of rifles and a reasonably acceptable aim...



Does anyone know what the rules are for hunting boar? Do you need landowner permission? I assume yes... Even better, anyone know of a club that speaks english around Zurich? (yes, I'm aware it's not in season now)


Couldn't find anything in English sadly...

st2lemans 01.02.2021 18:55

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Do you have a Swiss hunting license? :confused:

Several locals that I know do it.

Tom

JackieH 01.02.2021 18:58

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All hunters must have a hunting permit/licence issued by the cantonal authorities. The type of licence available and the price varies between the cantons. In order to qualify for a licence, applicants must be over the age of 20, pass a test and fulfil a range of conditions.

You can't just go out there shooting as you please.

Snoopy 02.02.2021 09:37

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3270936)
Do you have a Swiss hunting license? :confused:

Several locals that I know do it.

Tom

It wasnt your buddies that shot up the house in Sessa recently was it? :)

OP, I think you need a license for hunting. And I hope your aim is better than the guys above...;)

bowlie 02.02.2021 09:43

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That got me thinking, I have a fair selection of rifles and a reasonably acceptable aim...
Seeing as you are trying to kill a living mammal Id hope your aim is better than reasonably acceptable.

And you do need permission from the land owner.

st2lemans 02.02.2021 10:06

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3271171)
And you do need permission from the land owner.

Only if it's private land, must hunting around here is done on public land.

Tom

aSwissInTheUS 02.02.2021 10:08

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3271171)
And you do need permission from the land owner.

Depends on the canton. Canton ZH for example is divided into 169 hunting districts. Each district is leased to a hunters society for 8 years. Only those are allowed to hunt (with a few exceptions), exclusively, on nearly any property.

The number of hunters in each society is regulated and each new member needs the permission of the commune. A society can invite a guest hunter.
https://www.zh.ch/de/umwelt-tiere/ti...gdreviere.html

But first and foremost you will need a hunting license.

Izzt89 02.02.2021 11:00

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Originally Posted by Spinal (Post 3270934)
I've been looking for boar meat as my usual source (a hunter by the airport) seems to have stopped.

That got me thinking, I have a fair selection of rifles and a reasonably acceptable aim...

Does anyone know what the rules are for hunting boar? Do you need landowner permission? I assume yes... Even better, anyone know of a club that speaks english around Zurich? (yes, I'm aware it's not in season now)

Couldn't find anything in English sadly...

Interesting -- with all the confinement, in Spain I was lucky NOT to kill 4 boars as I drove down to my howetown on the North. My friend Alberto (hunter, and owner of various hunting reserves) told me that because of the lack of human pressure (industrial, farming, people, traffic...), the population (of boars and deer / red-tail deer / fox / rabbits) had exploded, and they were having serious (and unforeseen) problems with the management of the reserve. No idea about Switzerland, but, if you want to go hunting in the north of Spain, let me know - he will organize everything - from weapons import to export of the meat (he is a lawyer also, so who best?), happy to put you in contact.

(now, the difficult part is reaching Spain -- did you see that Swiss basically announced yesterday that they would stopped flying...everywhere??)

Principia Discordia 02.02.2021 12:52

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Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 3271190)
Depends on the canton. Canton ZH for example is divided into 169 hunting districts. Each district is leased to a hunters society for 8 years. Only those are allowed to hunt (with a few exceptions), exclusively, on nearly any property.

The number of hunters in each society is regulated and each new member needs the permission of the commune. A society can invite a guest hunter.
https://www.zh.ch/de/umwelt-tiere/ti...gdreviere.html

But first and foremost you will need a hunting license.

And the hunting license is no easy feat either, this is how it works in Zrich:

A written exam in german (based on a 400 page textbook covering everything from hunting dog breeds to the breeding season of stoats to animal diseases) and a shooting exam with shotgun and rifle has to be passed in order to become an hunting trainee, for lack of a better term. Once that's done you have to hook up with a local hunting group as a trainee. After that you take the actual practical hunting exam at least 2 years or a maximum of 6 years after passing the trainee test. Once all that is done, you can try to join up with a group to lease a district for a hefty fee. And then it's not all fun and games as either, as the leasees of each district are legally required to cull a certain percentage of deer to keep the population in check, are collectively liable for damages caused to local forests and farmlands by game animals, and a member of the group is required to be on call 24/7 by the police in order track and find any animals involved in vehicular accidents.

FrankZappa 02.02.2021 13:01

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Wild boar are an increasing problem in the Paris suburbs, partly due to a decreasing number of hunters, also due to the obvious difficulty of shooting with powerful guns close to houses.

My colleague, who lives in the hills south of Lake Geneva, had his lawn ploughed up several times by these monsters.

Talk to you later 02.02.2021 13:08

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Originally Posted by FrankZappa (Post 3271309)
had his lawn ploughed up several times by these monsters.


Humans are the real monsters, let the boars be wild ;)

Principia Discordia 02.02.2021 13:08

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Originally Posted by FrankZappa (Post 3271309)
Wild boar are an increasing problem in the Paris suburbs, partly due to a decreasing number of hunters, also due to the obvious difficulty of shooting with powerful guns close to houses.

My colleague, who lives in the hills south of Lake Geneva, had his lawn ploughed up several times by these monsters.

They're considering allowing bow hunting in Germany in more densely populated areas, as they also have a increasingly serious issues with wild boar. Switzerland isn't quite so bad yet, but it's an inevitable problem here too as wild pigs can reproduce twice a year leading to annual population increases of 150-200% and warmer winters contribute to a higher growth rate.

summergirl 02.02.2021 16:57

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Originally Posted by Izzt89 (Post 3271228)
My friend Alberto (hunter, and owner of various hunting reserves) told me that because of the lack of human pressure (industrial, farming, people, traffic...), the population (of boars and deer / red-tail deer / fox / rabbits) had exploded, and they were having serious (and unforeseen) problems with the management of the reserve.

This is the reasoning I hear from every person that I know that hunts. (okay, a handful, but still)

Never mind the fact that humans have taken over the wild animals' land/homes/habitat and the humans decide what is an acceptable number and rest can be killed. :msnsad:

JackieH 02.02.2021 17:14

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Very glad I live on Swiss side, where hunting with dogs is not allowed. In france they do hunt with packs of dogs, allow the dogs to have 'a bit of fun' with the animal, then kill it with a knife. Saw an ASPAS video the other day of a young board who had taken refuge in someone's garden- screaming and running aroundd with half its guts hanging out, after the dogs had ripped him apart. Just truly.

And in France- the hunters say the wild boars are too numerous- and at the same time, both artificially feed them on grain and corn to encourage numbers and breeding- then kill all the natural predators- then have the gall to say they are too numerous and cause damage.

Still, at least in Switzerland hunters get some training, are generally very good shots, and the laws are much tighter. Regular wild boar hunts in the woods behind us and then then drag them down in the snow to our lane- and always come and ask permission first.

I like the Geneva Canton solution.

Principia Discordia 02.02.2021 17:16

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Originally Posted by summergirl (Post 3271401)
This is the reasoning I hear from every person that I know that hunts. (okay, a handful, but still)

Never mind the fact that humans have taken over the wild animals' land/homes/habitat and the humans decide what is an acceptable number and rest can be killed. :msnsad:

So what's your solution? Will you be the first to move out of your house, cease using public infrastructure, and stop buying food produced on farms?

Principia Discordia 02.02.2021 17:20

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Originally Posted by JackieH (Post 3271410)
Very glad I live on Swiss side, where hunting with dogs is not allowed. In france they do hunt with packs of dogs, allow the dogs to have 'a bit of fun' with the animal, then kill it with a knife. Saw an ASPAS video the other day of a young board who had taken refuge in someone's garden- screaming and running aroundd with half its guts hanging out, after the dogs had ripped him apart. Just truly.

And in France- the hunters say the wild boars are too numerous- and at the same time, both artificially feed them on grain and corn to encourage numbers and breeding- then kill all the natural predators- then have the gall to say they are too numerous and cause damage.

Still, at least in Switzerland hunters get some training, are generally very good shots, and the laws are much tighter. Regular wild boar hunts in the woods behind us and then then drag them down in the snow to our lane- and always come and ask permission first.

Hunting is allowed here with dogs. It's practically impossible to get game, especially boar, out of heavy cover without them. They're also used to track wounded animals. Use of a knife is only allowed for a wounded animal when shooting would endanger people or property.

roegner 02.02.2021 17:20

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Originally Posted by summergirl (Post 3271401)
Never mind the fact that humans have taken over the wild animals' land/homes/habitat and the humans decide what is an acceptable number and rest can be killed. :msnsad:


Have you ever had your garden ploughed by a pack of boars?



You learn soon enough to keep a very safe distance, especially if they have young.


Issue in some cities is that they do not stay in the woods but come to plunder garbage bins etc etc.

JackieH 02.02.2021 17:23

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Originally Posted by Principia Discordia (Post 3271412)
Hunting is allowed here with dogs. It's practically impossible to get game, especially boar, out of heavy cover without them. They're also used to track wounded animals. Use of a knife is only allowed for a wounded animal when shooting would endanger people or property.

Yes- hunting with dogs to flush them is fine in CH- but you have to train them not to attack the animal and rip it to pieces- so it can be shot cleanly- Unlike in France where they do allow the dogs to attack the animal and rip it to pieces, before the kill. Big difference.

Many videos I could post, and the ASPAS video of this poor young boar- but will not. Just too horrendous. If you are going to hunt- do it quick, and do it well. AGain, I like the Geneva Canton solution.

bowlie 02.02.2021 17:28

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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3271413)

Issue in some cities is that they do not stay in the woods but come to plunder garbage bins etc etc.

In these areas people should be required to keep their garbage bins indoors, or to use boar-proof bins.

Take it from the Canadians who have been using bear-proof bins for decades.

I’d take a boar over a bear, particularly a momma-bear.

Spinal 02.02.2021 19:56

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I used to be very anti-hunting, and still am when hunting for sport.

That said, recently I started thinking... a clean shot boar vs a battery-raised pig... I think that the more ethical choice is the hunted boar...


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