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Quarantine: could other people briefly visit my apartment during it?

I was back from a high-risk country and am in the 10 day quarantine at home and I live alone . Could other people come in my apartment briefly (for less than 15 minutes) or this is forbidden?

The official instruction says "avoid all contacts with other people" but I don't know if it means that I shall minimise them all it's completely forbidden.

Several people want to come to check the situation of my apartment, including the agent from the regie(the company who manages our building) who demand a pre-inspection as I will quit my apartment in a few months.

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Old 02.03.2021, 14:46
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Re: qurantine: could other people briefly visit me during it?

What is unclear about "avoid all contacts with other people"?

The answer "I am in quarantine and may have Covid" will for sure be clear that all these people that are so eager to see you should come back at a different point in time.
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What is unclear about "avoid all contacts with other people"?

The answer "I am in quarantine and may have Covid" will for sure be clear that all these people that are so eager to see you should come back at a different point in time.
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I wanted to edit my post but can't. Actually they don't want to visit me, but my apartment...

I had negative 72h PCR result before flying just in case you don't know
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Re: qurantine: could other people briefly visit me during it?

also English is not my native language.

I always thought "please avoid drinking" and "it's strictly forbidden to drink" are not the same. or am I wrong?
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Re: qurantine: could other people briefly visit me during it?

No. You’re not even allowed to take you dog for a walk in an empty forest!
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No. You’re not even allowed to take you dog for a walk in an empty forest!
Thanks, sure I knew I am not allowed to go out.
It's just several people want very much to visit my apartment especially the regie being very pushy. I will tell them that I am under quarantine then
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also English is not my native language.

I always thought "please avoid drinking" and "it's strictly forbidden to drink" are not the same. or am I wrong?
No, not wrong, but the use of "avoid", especially in the original context and without the "please", does not necessarily make it any less firm an instruction, just accepts the possibility that it may not always be 100% possible to comply; if you get ill, for example, they hardly expect you to stay at home and just die.
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I had negative 72h PCR result before flying just in case you don't know
And? You are still in quarantine which means the government believes there is still a risk that you will develop and spread the disease. So just follow the rules.
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Re: qurantine: could other people briefly visit me during it?

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No, not wrong, but the use of "avoid", especially in the original context and without the "please", does not necessarily make it any less firm an instruction, just accepts the possibility that it may not always be 100% possible to comply; if you get ill, for example, they hardly expect you to stay at home and just die.
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I just re-checked the instruction, weird that they don't use the same word:

You must remain there at all times for the 10 days following your arrival.
avoid all contacts with other people.


If they had said "You must not have contacts with other people." then I wouldn't have this doubt. Using 2 different words made me think maybe it was nuanced.
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Using 2 different words made me think maybe it was nuanced.
Heh. English is a language often blessed by multiple words with similar but not_quite_identical meanings, largely as a result of nearly 2000 years of influence from multiple cultures using a variety of Romance and Germanic languages.

In this case it's fair to say that 'avoid' is indeed nuanced, just not quite in the way that you took it, i.e. it doesn't mean it's only advisory.
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Heh. English is a language often blessed by multiple words with similar but not_quite_identical meanings, largely as a result of nearly 2000 years of influence from multiple cultures using a variety of Romance and Germanic languages.

In this case it's fair to say that 'avoid' is indeed nuanced, just not quite in the way that you took it, i.e. it doesn't mean it's only advisory.
Thanks a lot, I totally get it. it's similar in lots of other languages
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Re: qurantine: could other people briefly visit me during it?

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also English is not my native language.
Here are the rules in
German
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...nreisende.html

French
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home...nreisende.html

Italian
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/it/home...ml#-1695439352

English
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...nreisende.html

Sometimes the meaning of a text becomes clearer by comparing several language. Google translate and deepl sometimes render slightly different translations, and different again depending on the language pair. Remember that English is not an official language in Switzerland, so any texts made available are merely a courtesy of the Swiss authorities, and not the official version.
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Thanks a lot Ace
I just re-checked the instruction, weird that they don't use the same word:

You must remain there at all times for the 10 days following your arrival.
avoid all contacts with other people.


If they had said "You must not have contacts with other people." then I wouldn't have this doubt. Using 2 different words made me think maybe it was nuanced.
Strictly, any with any law/ordinance/rule it is the meaning in the official language that matters. English is provided as a courtesy and often isn't checked by a native speaker.
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Strictly, any with any law/ordinance/rule it is the meaning in the official language that matters. English is provided as a courtesy and often isn't checked by a native speaker.
Well, in this case it says the exact same thing in English as the Italian (and French).

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Here are the rules in
German
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...nreisende.html

French
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home...nreisende.html

Italian
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/it/home...ml#-1695439352

English
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...nreisende.html

Sometimes the meaning of a text becomes clearer by comparing several language. Google translate and deepl sometimes render slightly different translations, and different again depending on the language pair. Remember that English is not an official language in Switzerland, so any texts made available are merely a courtesy of the Swiss authorities, and not the official version.
Thanks. Actually I started by reading the French one before the English one. but they also used 2 different words regarding going out and not have contact with people, with the first word stronger. Almost the same as the English ones
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Re: Quarantine: could other people briefly visit my apartment during it?

Unfortunately the Swiss ministries are overstaffed with German speakers, which means that even the French (and presumably even more so the Italian) versions are often second league translations, apparently not even reviewed by native language speakers.
Whilst it's certainly a great convenience to have English versions, sometimes they look as though someone has thrown something at Google Translate and not bothered, or been incapable, of reviewing what comes back.
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Unfortunately the Swiss ministries are overstaffed with German speakers, which means that even the French (and presumably even more so the Italian) versions are often second league translations, apparently not even reviewed by native language speakers.
Whilst it's certainly a great convenience to have English versions, sometimes they look as though someone has thrown something at Google Translate and not bothered, or been incapable, of reviewing what comes back.
Click on the English link and explain wich part is not clear to you. The very word “quarantine” alone answers the original question...
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Re: Quarantine: could other people briefly visit my apartment during it?

Quarantine is the same all over the world.

Isolate.
Don't see anybody.
Don't invite people over.
Don't go out, not even for grocery shopping.
Stay in your apartment at all time.

Stay home. By yourself. For the amount of time decided by the country where you need to quarantine.
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Re: Quarantine: could other people briefly visit my apartment during it?

yes other people can come to the apartment. you just have to avoid them. just run around in the apartment and stay as far away from them as you can.
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Re: Quarantine: could other people briefly visit my apartment during it?

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Quarantine is the same all over the world.

Isolate.
Don't see anybody.
Don't invite people over.
Don't go out, not even for grocery shopping.
Stay in your apartment at all time.

Stay home. By yourself. For the amount of time decided by the country where you need to quarantine.
Actually it isn't - the US defines quarantine and isolation as two different things.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...uarantine.html

US quarantine rules are less strict, they do allow contact with other family members. CH (and UK) rules do not allow that unless the whole family is in quarantine.
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