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Old 21.07.2021, 13:17
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This tread started pathetically - and has now become much worse than a primary school playground...
hopefully it will disappear once the account is finally deleted!
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Old 21.07.2021, 13:56
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As a matter of fact, we still do not have a formal answer to "what is the correct procedure", clearly it is no longer possible to contact Editor Bob.
So has the new admin agreed we contact him or do we use the mod email team@englishforum.ch or use one of the other admin addresses?
You just need to ask your friends at the local to delete your account for you .

It’s called cutting out the middle man.
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Old 21.07.2021, 13:57
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hopefully it will disappear once the account is finally deleted!
Don’t hold your breath
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Old 21.07.2021, 14:24
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Your decision, you can choose to ask that your posts are deleted under EU legislation or choose not to.
Certain people exercising this option will/would render many useful threads pretty useless and I wonder how they handle people quoting other users who have since asked for the deletion of their data.

As much as some people enjoy making fun of the flouncers, some of those who have left made very useful contributions that will disappear with them if they want all their posts wiped. Even if they don't ask for the full delete, if a thread has more than one "Guest" in it, understanding the flow of information is harder. You also lose the opportunity to contact the person if you have an additional question that you don't want to pose in public. Furthermore, there is no way of gauging whether the information provided comes from a "trustworthy" source, i.e. someone whom you know to be knowledgeable based on their "body of work" on the forum, or someone known to see the truth as mostly negotiable.
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Quite extensive, the tedious attempts at point scoring against the “newbie” mod FMF. Perhaps in keeping with some veterans’ attitude to newbies of any kind? Fail to see what Editor Bob’s forum demise and/or details gets some posters’ knickers into an ever tighter twist.
Will refrain from quoting to protect the guilty
Keyword: hypocrisy
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Old 21.07.2021, 14:50
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Certain people exercising this option will/would render many useful threads pretty useless and I wonder how they handle people quoting other users who have since asked for the deletion of their data.

As much as some people enjoy making fun of the flouncers, some of those who have left made very useful contributions that will disappear with them if they want all their posts wiped. Even if they don't ask for the full delete, if a thread has more than one "Guest" in it, understanding the flow of information is harder. You also lose the opportunity to contact the person if you have an additional question that you don't want to pose in public. Furthermore, there is no way of gauging whether the information provided comes from a "trustworthy" source, i.e. someone whom you know to be knowledgeable based on their "body of work" on the forum, or someone known to see the truth as mostly negotiable.
Note also that there is not such a right of all posts to be deleted. Anonymization is sufficient
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Old 21.07.2021, 15:00
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I didn't know that list existed - thank you. I was surprised to see myself on the list for Spam deputies - Is it just members who have been around for years or having so many posts who are on the list .. I must confess I wouldn't know what to do except report it to one of the mods..
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Old 21.07.2021, 15:02
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Re: Deleting My Account

As a new poster, I often look through old threads, and don't recall having felt any annoyance when I have seen posts under the guest moniker.


I would say I have found the following to be true thus far:

  1. It's often clear who the poster was, as people fawn sychophantically or attack often on threads, so the name is often mentioned in other posts
  2. Posters have a style of writing that's nigh-on-impossible to disguise, so anyone reading threads regularly will pick-up on who a regular poster was, even if the moniker is just "guest"
  3. When it's tricky to decipher, it can make it easier to read threads, as there's no sentiment attached to a moniker based on previous behaviour
  4. For every helpful post, there are 20-30 unhelpful or neutral ones, so there really isn't a massive treasure trove here (but the great posts are, of course, wonderful as a resource, regardless of how few of them there are)
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Old 21.07.2021, 15:04
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Quite extensive, the tedious attempts at point scoring against the “newbie” mod FMF. Perhaps in keeping with some veterans’ attitude to newbies of any kind? Fail to see what Editor Bob’s forum demise and/or details gets some posters’ knickers into an ever tighter twist.
Will refrain from quoting to protect the guilty
Keyword: hypocrisy
I had never realised that humans were pack hunting animals until I looked on wiki today.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pack_hunter

A pack hunter or social predator
Cooperative hunting has been linked to the social organization of animal species and the evolution of sociality and thus provides a unique perspective to study group behavior.[16][17]
humans hunt cooperatively, at least some of the time
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Old 21.07.2021, 15:36
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Re: Deleting My Account

Is having friends at The Local the new one up on the other forum you moderate ?
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Old 21.07.2021, 15:48
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I had never realised that humans were pack hunting animals until I looked on wiki today.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pack_hunter

A pack hunter or social predator
Cooperative hunting has been linked to the social organization of animal species and the evolution of sociality and thus provides a unique perspective to study group behavior.[16][17]
humans hunt cooperatively, at least some of the time
Maybe that goes to show that people are more effective when they work together rather than against one another.
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Old 21.07.2021, 16:04
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Maybe that goes to show that people are more effective when they work together rather than against one another.
If that was true I would have never become a moderator, a group can come complacent when in an echo chamber
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Old 21.07.2021, 16:20
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How do you know ?
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Old 21.07.2021, 16:31
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If that was true I would have never become a moderator, a group can come complacent when in an echo chamber
Doesn't that contradict your other post then? I guess I had interpreted that post as "cooperation is more effective." And when applied to the EF, maybe that means that arguing in circles isn't really effective. But I admittedly wasn't quite sure why you had posted it (and not entirely sure if that matters).

Anyways...

I think this animation sums up some of the behavior that I often see happening on this forum:



Maybe it's just "par for the course" that some people don't like others in an online forum where people assert their opinions, etc. and debates naturally emerge. But simply because someone doesn't like someone else or doesn't agree with their views doesn't mean that they should feel the need to constantly harass that person in some form or another. For example, in the form of continuously trying to engage that person in arguments.

I think the EF would be a more enjoyable place if more of us learned that we don't always have to react when someone gets on our nerves or says something that we don't agree with. Sometimes you just have to let that stuff flow around you or else you become a puppet, basically, having your strings pulled by other people.
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Old 21.07.2021, 16:45
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Re: Deleting My Account

I'd personally like to see the removal of the thanks and groan buttons, neither of which add anything positive to the forum, since both are so easy to mis-use for abuse or sychophanitic fawning. A sincere thank you, and a sincere disagreement, can both be conveyed with a polite explanation amongst those, who, supposedly, have an interest in chat forums, in my humble opinion.
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Old 21.07.2021, 16:47
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If that was true I would have never become a moderator, a group can come complacent when in an echo chamber
EF can't be an echo chamber when the only common factors are an ability to converse in English and ties to Switzerland. What's 'echo chamber' about information regarding navigating your way around a new life in Switzerland?

The fact that EF isn't an echo chamber is precisely the reason that you do get spats every now and again. If people stop painting themselves into a corner, they stop seeing everyone else as an 'elite', 'legends', 'clique', 'echo chamber'. Unless I know a member in person, it's all just words on a screen and definitely not something to lose any sleep over.
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Doesn't that contradict your other post then? I guess I had interpreted that post as "cooperation is more effective." And when applied to the EF, maybe that means that arguing in circles isn't really effective. But I admittedly wasn't quite sure why you had posted it (and not entirely sure if that matters).

Anyways...

I think this animation sums up some of the behavior that I often see happening on this forum:



Maybe it's just "par for the course" that some people don't like others in an online forum where people assert their opinions, etc. and debates naturally emerge. But simply because someone doesn't like someone else or doesn't agree with their views doesn't mean that they should feel the need to constantly harass that person in some form or another. For example, in the form of continuously trying to engage that person in arguments.

I think the EF would be a more enjoyable place if more of us learned that we don't always have to react when someone gets on our nerves or says something that we don't agree with. Sometimes you just have to let that stuff flow around you or else you become a puppet, basically, having your strings pulled by other people.
What I should have explained, groups work very well for bullying, which is what I meant when I posted the pack animal link
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What I should have explained, groups work very well for bullying, which is what I meant when I posted the pack animal link
How old are you?
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Old 21.07.2021, 16:57
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You forgot Trump's lover
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What I should have explained, groups work very well for bullying, which is what I meant when I posted the pack animal link
Okay. I think that's probably true. People can feel encouraged by one another, and I think the "thanks" button here just adds to that problem, especially when it causes someone to subconsciously feel validated. A bit like the locker room bully who has a circle of friends encouraging him to bully another kid and then the bully feels "big" in front of his friends because of it.

I agree with the person above who wrote that the thanks and groan buttons should be abolished. I think they only inadvertently add to some of the problems on this forum.
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