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Old 21.07.2021, 17:06
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If that was true I would have never become a moderator, a group can come complacent when in an echo chamber
I guess there is a difference between being effective as a group and doing a good job.
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:08
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If that was true I would have never become a moderator
Out of interest how exactly did you become a moderator?
Did EB just randomly offer you the job or did you ask for it?
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I think the EF would be a more enjoyable place if more of us learned that we don't always have to react when someone gets on our nerves or says something that we don't agree with. Sometimes you just have to let that stuff flow around you or else you become a puppet, basically, having your strings pulled by other people.
True what you say.

But not long ago you were trying to unleash a storm of indignation against a certain moderator, simply because you didn't like her?
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:12
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I guess there is a difference between being effective as a group and doing a good job.
I have always thought that the bigger the group, the quality of the group think drops to the lowest common denominator.
Probably why Berkshire Hathaway has been so successful. Their biggest decisions are taken by just 2 people jointly
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:14
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Out of interest how exactly did you become a moderator?
Did EB just randomly offer you the job or did you ask for it?
It’s covered in the mod shakeup thread Tom started. He liked a post in the earlier Mod coup thread so I knew it was worth a shot.
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:15
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Out of interest how exactly did you become a moderator?
Did EB just randomly offer you the job or did you ask for it?
Originally I thought EB was playing FMF by offering him the moderator role and at the same time unbanning a host of trolls so making the mod role very difficult.

But now we see FMF knew EB was long gone and did not take the opportunity to ban the trolls again so the situation is not as simple as I thought.
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:21
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:23
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Itís covered in the mod shakeup thread Tom started. He liked a post in the earlier Mod coup thread so I knew it was worth a shot.
Would you mind repeating it please? Iím not going to trawl through all this posts just to find it.
Itís a simple question really. Did you ask or did he offer? Iím guessing the former based on your comment but a straight answer would be nice.
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:24
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I have always thought that the bigger the group, the quality of the group think drops to the lowest common denominator.
Probably why Berkshire Hathaway has been so successful. Their biggest decisions are taken by just 2 people jointly
Well, the bigger the group, the more perspectives, I guess. So the less perspectives involved, the easier a decision would be. It would certainly allow for much easier "tunnel vision."

But that doesn't necessarily mean that the easier decision was the best decision.

Maybe sometimes a good decision needs to take into account all the various perspectives -- or at least more than just a few. Doesn't that go back to the echo chamber thing we were just talking about?

Anyways... I could see how difficult it would be for anyone to be a mod in this place. And now more than ever. There appears to be two opposing groups that have emerged here. And I'm not sure what's going to change in that regard unless or until more people try to establish some balance and make a conscious effort to try to treat one another more respectfully. I'm trying to work on that myself, because I like this forum and am tired of seeing so much animosity here.
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Old 21.07.2021, 17:40
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Itís covered in the mod shakeup thread Tom started. He liked a post in the earlier Mod coup thread so I knew it was worth a shot.
So you asked him? Fair enough. Iím assuming he also didnít support Ace and 22ís form of modding but thatís just guesswork.
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Originally I thought EB was playing FMF by offering him the moderator role and at the same time unbanning a host of trolls so making the mod role very difficult.

But now we see FMF knew EB was long gone and did not take the opportunity to ban the trolls again so the situation is not as simple as I thought.
I have not seen any trolling since the purge.
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Old 21.07.2021, 18:10
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I have not seen any trolling since the purge.
How ironic for YOU to say that...
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Old 21.07.2021, 18:36
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Well, the bigger the group, the more perspectives, I guess. So the less perspectives involved, the easier a decision would be. It would certainly allow for much easier "tunnel vision."

But that doesn't necessarily mean that the easier decision was the best decision.

Maybe sometimes a good decision needs to take into account all the various perspectives -- or at least more than just a few. Doesn't that go back to the echo chamber thing we were just talking about?

Anyways... I could see how difficult it would be for anyone to be a mod in this place. And now more than ever. There appears to be two opposing groups that have emerged here. And I'm not sure what's going to change in that regard unless or until more people try to establish some balance and make a conscious effort to try to treat one another more respectfully. I'm trying to work on that myself, because I like this forum and am tired of seeing so much animosity here.
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Old 21.07.2021, 19:00
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Anyways... I could see how difficult it would be for anyone to be a mod in this place. And now more than ever. There appears to be two opposing groups that have emerged here. And I'm not sure what's going to change in that regard unless or until more people try to establish some balance and make a conscious effort to try to treat one another more respectfully. I'm trying to work on that myself, because I like this forum and am tired of seeing so much animosity here.
There's no balance and there can't be, there's one big "newly" emerged group which ironically accuses everyone else of "bullying"...lol And whatever you say is like "But but you said this or that...". I guess there's too much time on their hands?
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Old 21.07.2021, 19:20
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And why is it any of your business? Have you asked any other Mods how they got their position?

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Would you mind repeating it please? Iím not going to trawl through all this posts just to find it.
Itís a simple question really. Did you ask or did he offer? Iím guessing the former based on your comment but a straight answer would be nice.
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Old 21.07.2021, 19:35
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Count me as another one on the list of Spam deputies and did not know it. Are there any "super powers" that come with this role?!?

Can I apply for EB's old position? Still not sure if this new guy really exists. I think I'll call him SchrŲdinger's Admin for the time being...

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I didn't know that list existed - thank you. I was surprised to see myself on the list for Spam deputies - Is it just members who have been around for years or having so many posts who are on the list .. I must confess I wouldn't know what to do except report it to one of the mods..
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Old 21.07.2021, 20:04
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And why is it any of your business? Have you asked any other Mods how they got their position?
Which position did you have in mind?
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Count me as another one on the list of Spam deputies and did not know it. Are there any "super powers" that come with this role?!?

Can I apply for EB's old position? Still not sure if this new guy really exists. I think I'll call him SchrŲdinger's Admin for the time being...
You have the "power" to ban spammers - hence the name Spam Deputy. Sadly don't get many of them here on the forum since the Korean spammer attacks a while back.
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There's no balance and there can't be, there's one big "newly" emerged group which ironically accuses everyone else of "bullying"...lol And whatever you say is like "But but you said this or that...". I guess there's too much time on their hands?
Kindergarten. Playground. You name it. Boring.
I understand. To be honest, though, I have seen people on both "sides" doing it. But I feel like pointing the finger at someone isn't really doing anything to help the situation. It usually just makes people all the more defensive. There are a couple people here that I don't really get along very well with, but thankfully, one of them I ignore and she seems to usually do the same favor for me. Mutual ignoring. I think it helps keep the peace, at least. And I respect her for it. Maybe this place would be better if people tried to ignore what bothers them more often rather than constantly trying to "fuel the fire," I guess.

Sometimes I think that anger has a boomerang effect. If you direct it at someone, most likely, they're going to direct it right back at you. And then a cycle begins. Maybe sometimes it's best to try to just let things go.
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Old 21.07.2021, 20:22
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Count me as another one on the list of Spam deputies and did not know it. Are there any "super powers" that come with this role?!?

Can I apply for EB's old position? Still not sure if this new guy really exists. I think I'll call him SchrŲdinger's Admin for the time being...
About 8 to 10 years ago, any longstanding member with a reasonable rep rating got added to the Spam Deputies, a few asked to be removed.
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