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Pancakes 16.07.2021 19:10

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328595)
We like the smell of our own fart, but everyone else's farts stink. That is basically EF in a nutshell :)

I like the smell of your farts. :)

Landers 16.07.2021 19:10

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Originally Posted by parnell (Post 3328600)
If it's the post about the Germans then Germans are not a race - nor are the Irish for that matter so ease off on the soy.

Whether they are or they aren't isn't the problem. Just because something doesn't fit an exact definition *does* make the discrimination equally socially unacceptable.

PS I also have no idea what "ease off on the soy" is supposed to mean but sounds a bit suss in the context of this thread.

eyebeebe 16.07.2021 19:16

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Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 3328601)
I am the user who actually reported the post in question and I can confirm that you deleted it within a few minutes. Before that was it around for 12 hours or so and multiple users complained about it in the thread instead of reporting it.

I guess what Jim and frankly I are missing are consequences from the mod team. If a user goes too far, he should get a day or week off... and well, this seems to never happen anymore no matter how hostile, racist or insulting the post is. This post is just one example - the tone and aggressiveness on EF is clearly higher than it used to be.

Unlike others do I not blame you for it, but you took on the role to moderate the forum, so please do so some more...

I strongly considered reporting it, but actually thought it better to leave it there for more people to see what an obnoxious post it was.

Treverus 16.07.2021 19:16

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328606)
Bizarrely 2 posters reported it within 1 minute of each other.

Due to the contents of the PM, I decided the matter was now out of my hands, the other mods presumably agreed as they were sent a copy. The Administrators may or may not be seeking legal advise before any action is taken.

Im not talking about the PM, I am talking about Toms post. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing? Thats what it looks like and that's what has annoyed several folks on here more than a bit... (Except of Parnell, who is a prime example of a user who makes EF worse and does not add the slightest bit of value to the original idea of this site.)

parnell 16.07.2021 19:20

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Originally Posted by Landers (Post 3328609)
Whether they are or they aren't isn't the problem. Just because something doesn't fit an exact definition doesn't make the discrimination equally socially unacceptable.

Of course it does ! Where have you been for the last 20 years ? Calling white people gammon or crackers is entirely socially acceptable or which celeb can you cite has been cancelled for the same ?

Also racism is something specific despite many people wishing to label every possible slight as racist.

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Originally Posted by Landers (Post 3328609)
PS I also have no idea what "ease off on the soy" is supposed to mean but sounds a bit suss in the context of this thread.

It means "don't be so delicate"

parnell 16.07.2021 19:21

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Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 3328611)
Im not talking about the PM, I am talking about Toms post. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing? Thats what it looks like and that's what has annoyed several folks on here more than a bit... (Except of Parnell, who is a prime example of a user who makes EF worse and does not add the slightest bit of value to the original idea of this site.)

Personal attacks are forbidden on this site - so I'm now caling for your banning - preferably with a little tarring and feathering first. Also hypocrite!

Tom1234 16.07.2021 19:22

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Originally Posted by parnell (Post 3328613)
Personal attacks are forbidden on this site - so I'm now caling for your banning - preferably with a little tarring and feathering first. Also hypocrite!

That's not a personal attack.

A personal attack would be calling you a racist twat.

parnell 16.07.2021 19:26

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3328614)
That's not a personal attack.

A personal attack would be calling you a racist twat.

You should perhaps learn English before posting but I see that you prefer a complete lack of wit to get by.

HickvonFrick 16.07.2021 19:28

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I want to see the PM now...

schoggiweggli 16.07.2021 19:39

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Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3328618)
I want to see the PM now...

Someone said the Germans were all nasties, and everyone has got out of their prams.
Only Brit bashing is tolerated here.

bowlie 16.07.2021 19:41

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Iím taking a break, this place has become toxic.

jacek 16.07.2021 19:55

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We all are not perfect, we are humans. Sometimes, even I overreact to certain events and use those angry words in various contexts. Today one of my posts was also edited for using the “tabu word”. I didn’t even realize it has slipped thru my personal radar.

However, it’s not the reason to be pussy about it and leave the EF. We have to learn how to deal with our own weaknesses.

nickatbasel 16.07.2021 20:08

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328589)
The forum seems very much friendlier than it was earlier this year, hence the return of posters & even a moderator who had avoided posting.
I have had PM's from people I would have never expected to approve of the changes thanking me for my hard work.

How many more on-side racist trolls, QAnon nutcases and all-round Karens do you plan to unban to prove your point?

fatmanfilms 16.07.2021 20:22

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Originally Posted by nickatbasel (Post 3328627)
How many more on-side racist trolls, QAnon nutcases and all-round Karens do you plan to unban to prove your point?

I have not unbanned a single person, I pretty sure you know that.

Blueangel 16.07.2021 20:29

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328628)
I have not unbanned a single person, I pretty sure you know that.

Then who has?

komsomolez 16.07.2021 20:31

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So this is indeed just about Tom's nonsense with the Nazis and then the AC/DC video? I mean, who would take that seriously?

Blueangel 16.07.2021 20:36

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Originally Posted by jacek (Post 3328623)
We all are not perfect, we are humans. Sometimes, even I overreact to certain events and use those angry words in various contexts. Today one of my posts was also edited for using the ďtabu wordĒ. I didnít even realize it has slipped thru my personal radar.

It was taboo in the 1930s and hideous in the context it was written. I made the huge mistake of reading it to my OH who lived his first 40yrs in Jo'burg, and he was freaking livid.

fatmanfilms 16.07.2021 20:43

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 3328629)
Then who has?

Editor Bob, same person who made the changes to the moderation team both last year & more recently.

Do you honestly believe a single moderator acting alone could unban people who were permanently banned & get away with it on any day other than April 1st?

Blueangel 16.07.2021 20:47

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328633)
Do you honestly believe a single moderator acting alone could unban people who were premaritally banned & get away with it on any day other than April 1st?

No, but I do know that a single mod's decision can be outvoted and over-ridden by the group.

CliiniMuus 16.07.2021 20:50

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I'm missing something. What's the reason Fatmanfilms is being accused of it, out of curiosity? Last time I checked, loads of people are mod's. Why's Fatmanfilms being singled out please?

komsomolez 16.07.2021 20:51

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Originally Posted by CliiniMuus (Post 3328635)
I'm missing something. What's the reason Fatmanfilms is being accused of it, out of curiosity? Last time I checked, loads of people are mod's. Why's Fatmanfilms being singled out please?

Because he is the Marmite Mod

eyebeebe 16.07.2021 20:53

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Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3328618)
I want to see the PM now...

Sorry. Heís busy right now playing with green, amber and red lists.

bwkranger 16.07.2021 20:58

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Originally Posted by Jim2007 (Post 3328474)
After 14 years, it is with a certain amount of sadness, I have decided to delete my account.

There are all kinds of people here, some educate and inform, some make me laugh, some make me shake my head and some annoy me for a few minutes. But there is one thing that keeps me annoyed - racism in any format.

In the past 24 hours, a member with a reputation for being contraversal posted a blatant racist statement. The post was deleted and the poster goes on his merry way to sin again...

After all that has gone on around the world over the past few months, the fact that the mods seem to feel continuing to enable this kind of behaviour is acceptable, is beyond me and I have decided that a community moderated in such a style is one I no longer want to be a member of.

Hi Jim, I am sorry to read this post and that you're deleting your account. Like you I was shocked when I came across that disgraceful racist comment. I also responded to the thread asking the mods to intervene. The post must have been still on there for quite some time. Like others have posted, the forum has to be free from racist comments. My only question would be what are the consequences for the poster of the comment?

My2pups 16.07.2021 21:04

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And who is this group that you are speaking of? Do you really think that MC and FMF have orchestrated all of the events of the last weeks in order to make the EF a better place for the 10-15 of us who lean to the right? Talk about a conspiracy theory!

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 3328634)
No, but I do know that a single mod's decision can be outvoted and over-ridden by the group.


Talk to you later 16.07.2021 21:08

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If I understood correctly, a white guy called all white guys from another country Nazis? :p

parnell 16.07.2021 21:08

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328633)
Do you honestly believe a single moderator acting alone could unban people who were premaritally banned & get away with it on any day other than April 1st?

EF's power influences marriages now ? Truly impressive.

fatmanfilms 16.07.2021 21:08

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 3328634)
No, but I do know that a single mod's decision can be outvoted and over-ridden by the group.

If that had occurred, then you could be happy in the knowledge that a majority of the mods had agreed to the changes. However as I wrote earlier Editor Bob did the un banning.

schoggiweggli 16.07.2021 21:10

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Originally Posted by fduvall (Post 3328640)
And who is this group that you are speaking of? Do you really think that MC and FMF have orchestrated all of the events of the last weeks in order to make the EF a better place for the 10-15 of us who lean to the right? Talk about a conspiracy theory!

Iíve said it before and Iíll say it again.
I donít see any right wing posters or posts on here. Leaning right is pretty accurate actually.
The most extreme is a bit right of center, more David Cameron than Enoch Powell.

schoggiweggli 16.07.2021 21:13

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328641)
If I understood correctly, a white guy called all white guys from another country Nazis? :p

Every one of them, without exception.
I think that includes all of those in mixed race marriages as well.
As is tradition, someone else then became grossly offended on their behalf.
Then the two sides lined up.

st2lemans 16.07.2021 21:38

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Originally Posted by komsomolez (Post 3328630)
the AC/DC video?

Umm, what? :confused:

Tom

komsomolez 16.07.2021 21:42

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3328651)
Umm, what? :confused:

Tom

Wasn't that you in the "Friends of the EU" thread?

marton 16.07.2021 21:49

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328644)
If that had occurred, then you could be happy in the knowledge that a majority of the mods had agreed to the changes. However as I wrote earlier Editor Bob did the un banning.

Presumably, all the mods are acquiescent with this unbanning as nobody has been banned again despite the fact that some of the current mods were in accord with the original banning?

mossie 16.07.2021 21:53

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If you like something read it, if you donít move along. No point in throwing the toys out of the pram. There is no moral high ground on the internet.

marton 16.07.2021 21:56

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Originally Posted by schoggiweggli (Post 3328647)
Every one of them, without exception.
I think that includes all of those in mixed race marriages as well.
As is tradition, someone else then became grossly offended on their behalf.
Then the two sides lined up.

And includes members of the National Democratic Party of Germany a far-right and Neo-Nazi political party that even managed to elect an MEP in recent times.

st2lemans 16.07.2021 21:59

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Tom

schoggiweggli 16.07.2021 22:00

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Originally Posted by marton (Post 3328655)
And includes members of the National Democratic Party of Germany a far-right and Neo-Nazi political party that even managed to elect an MEP in recent times.

Are you saying he wasnít far off the mark?!?!?

fatmanfilms 16.07.2021 22:02

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Originally Posted by marton (Post 3328653)
Presumably, all the mods are acquiescent with this unbanning as nobody has been banned again despite the fact that some of the current mods were in accord with the original banning?

I would not know if they were in accord with the original banning, perhaps they were being bullied or said nothing for fear of being bullied.

Really interested how Blueangel knows so much of the workings of the modzone.

marton 16.07.2021 22:05

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328658)
I would not know if they were in accord with the original banning, perhaps they were being bullied or said nothing for fear of being bullied.

Really interested how Blueangel knows so much of the workings of the modzone.

And they are still in fear of being bullied?

mossie 16.07.2021 22:17

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328585)
Jim2007, maybe come back as Jim2021 or think longterm and come back as Jim3000 :D

Irish people usually donít reinvent themselves, they find a white horse go to Tir na Nog, have a drink fall off the whites horse and thatís it then. I think Jim fell off the white horse.

fatmanfilms 16.07.2021 22:17

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Originally Posted by marton (Post 3328659)
And they are still in fear of being bullied?

I don't believe so, as the bullies were put out to pasture so to speak.


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