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Old 16.07.2021, 17:02
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If Jim finds how that one comment was really bad and racist then Jim should stick around and fight that type of inaccepatable negativity.

Jim was a bit worried how the mods didnt react fast and that shocked him. A mod just explaned what happened and measures were taken. Jim is loved by many members and he should give the forum another chance so we all live here happily ever after

Susie was bit nervous because a mod replied but in a way if a mod did not reply that would've been seen also something like a "bad mod" attitude.

Everyone should get themselves a good drink, a Spritz Veneziano like I did and stop nagging and whining.

There I fixed the problem. we can go on now and bitchh about the virus or smthg
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Old 16.07.2021, 17:05
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Talking about mass exodus and stirring and bullying.

I wonder why you didn't post publically what you sent me as a rep message?
You really need help amogles - please keep to the subject & this is the absolute last reply you will get from me here as Jim deserves better. I also sent it as a rep because the Covid thread should not be about petty arguments & several users had requested it to be so, I agree with them.

Glad to share - I corrected your false statement about my health condition and informed you that were totally out of line and had been reported. Not so scandalous is it?
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Old 16.07.2021, 17:11
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You really need help amogles - please keep to the subject & this is the absolute last reply you will get from me here as Jim deserves better. I also sent it as a rep because the Covid thread should not be about petty arguments & several users had requested it to be so, I agree with them.

Glad to share - I corrected your false statement about my health condition and informed you that were totally out of line and had been reported. Not so scandalous is it?
You said a bit more than that actually.

And no, red rep is not there for saying things that don't belong in the thread.

What a curious thing to assume.
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I understand the issue, however due to tone of the communication there is nothing further I can do.

We had an exodus last year, the year before & even rival forums have been set up multiple times, it's really nothing new.

Looking at posting stats, the forum was busier in June 21 than in the previous 4 years in June, looks like the same will be true for July.
The question is why it was busier? Could it be because of the threads that were made about members' unhappiness in how the forum was being moderated?

Sorry you're leaving us Jim.
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Looking at posting stats, the forum was busier in June 21 than in the previous 4 years in June, looks like the same will be true for July.
Most of us are bored & home more than usual due to the pandemic, probably why the numbers are high.

I would look more for quality long term posters who are leaving, you cannot deny that & how the direction of this forum is becoming much more negative and full of conflict. While it has always existed, this is at a new level and the biggest offenders now seem to get a free pass.
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Rather than acknowledge and attempt to understand the issue, you immediately go on the defence. And the current mods wonder why there is a mass exodus ... or perhaps they don't care.

Please try harder, thanks very much.
I believe he was in this case providing some balance. What would you like for him do have done differently?

I also believe there's a greater problem why people leave or post once and never come back. I suppose the closest description could be a lack of tolerance and understanding.
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You said a bit more than that actually.

And no, red rep is not there for saying things that don't belong in the thread.

What a curious thing to assume.
Feel free to copy and paste what I wrote, this is nothing more that I said other than nothing would most likely be done about the report I made on you.

I’m off to enjoy the weekend now and I hope everybody else does the same despite the weather.
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Old 16.07.2021, 17:14
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I have been busy polishing and readying my bum for the second Moderna vaccine and I missed all the drama here.

Would someone let me know what happened and who it was? PM will do too

Regarding racism, MODERATED, I feel judging someone by the colour of their skin is not a very bright thing to do.

If the person was truly racist and crude then a warning plus 1-7 day ban would do. Actually, deletion of post would be enough from my point of view, but then I have very thick skin and stuff like that does not get to me.

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Old 16.07.2021, 17:19
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The amount of unnecessary aggression on this forum in general has become unbearable.

Jim, I wish you the very best and, if you do delete your account, I can only hope that you will come to find it to be a "blessing in disguise." I wonder how many of the world's problems have actually been solved by people arguing on internet forums.

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Old 16.07.2021, 17:24
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Jim2007, maybe come back as Jim2021 or think longterm and come back as Jim3000
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I appreciate you're comfortable with it but whether you're in the group or not I don't think propagating perceived racial (or otherwise) slurs is a good idea.
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Old 16.07.2021, 17:34
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The amount of unnecessary aggression on this forum in general has become unbearable.
The forum seems very much friendlier than it was earlier this year, hence the return of posters & even a moderator who had avoided posting.
I have had PM's from people I would have never expected to approve of the changes thanking me for my hard work.
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Old 16.07.2021, 17:38
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I appreciate you're comfortable with it but whether you're in the group or not I don't think propagating perceived racial (or otherwise) slurs is a good idea.
It seems to me that FMF did the right thing by deleting the offending post.

I really don't see what there is to take issue with.
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The forum seems very much friendlier than it was earlier this year, hence the return of posters & even a moderator who had avoided posting.
I have had PM's from people I would have never expected to approve of the changes thanking me for my hard work.
Yeah, maybe it is actually a bit calmer now than it was. Sometimes there's just a nasty "flare-up" I guess. Like hemorrhoids.

I actually do like you and don't mind you being a moderator. I know we don't see eye-to-eye in regard to politics or whatever, but I'm able to look past that because you treat me respectfully and I hope you feel that I do the same to you.

Anyways... Kudos to anyone who is trying to reduce the amount of bulls*** in this place!
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It seems to me that FMF did the right thing by deleting the offending post.

I really don't see what there is to take issue with.
You've misunderstood. I was referring to a post in this thread which still exists.
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... amount of bulls*** in this place!
We like the smell of our own fart, but everyone else's farts stink. That is basically EF in a nutshell
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Old 16.07.2021, 17:56
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You have missed some details about this.

You chose NOT to report a post you did not like. The post was reported & within 5 minutes I deleted it, you chose to comment on the post which I also deleted along with a couple of other comments.

Within a few minutes I received a PM from you saying you had escalated the matter to an administrator, due to the tone of the PM, I reported the PM. It as it was clearly something for the administrators to deal with & in my view far too serious a matter for the moderators to deal with.

You will be sadly missed
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The forum seems very much friendlier than it was earlier this year, hence the return of posters & even a moderator who had avoided posting.
I have had PM's from people I would have never expected to approve of the changes thanking me for my hard work.
I am the user who actually reported the post in question and I can confirm that you deleted it within a few minutes. Before that was it around for 12 hours or so and multiple users complained about it in the thread instead of reporting it.

I guess what Jim and frankly I are missing are consequences from the mod team. If a user goes too far, he should get a day or week off... and well, this seems to never happen anymore no matter how hostile, racist or insulting the post is. This post is just one example - the tone and aggressiveness on EF is clearly higher than it used to be.

Unlike others do I not blame you for it, but you took on the role to moderate the forum, so please do so some more...
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Ignoring anything which may come under criminal conduct for a moment, posters will have differing thoughts on what constitutes (whichever negative quality), and that's why I don't believe it's enough to aim for a reduction in (whichever negative quality). That wouldn't go far enough for me, as it leaves too much wiggle room to dismiss the conduct as fine, on a forum where posters commonly join in when another poster is being abused, and use rep and groans to demean others (instead of contributing alternative views moderately on the forum).



I feel there's largely an absence of civility and kindness, and the tone is often, at best, impolite. I feel there's a lack of decency, as it pertains to apologising and conceding.


Posters will have differing thoughts on the above, as they should. These are just mine, as a new joiner, who wasn't welcomed at all on the board. I've found the large majority of the mod's to be either disinterested, or pretty spiteful and mocking, towards new joiners. Of course, posters will have different opinions on whether mod's should model decency on the forum, or just police behind the scenes.
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I am the user who actually reported the post in question and I can confirm that you deleted it within a few minutes. Before that was it around for 12 hours or so and multiple users complained about it in the thread instead of reporting it.

I guess what Jim and frankly I are missing are consequences from the mod team. If a user goes too far, he should get a day or week off... and well, this seems to never happen anymore no matter how hostile, racist or insulting the post is. This post is just one example - the tone and aggressiveness on EF is clearly higher than it used to be.

Unlike others do I not blame you for it, but you took on the role to moderate the forum, so please do so some more...
Bizarrely 2 posters reported it within 1 minute of each other.

Due to the contents of the PM, I decided the matter was now out of my hands, the other mods presumably agreed as they were sent a copy. The Administrators may or may not be seeking legal advise before any action is taken.
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