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Old 25.07.2021, 14:56
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Yes. It is all Tom's fault. And Zee Germans'.

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Old 25.07.2021, 15:01
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Re: Deleting My Account

I’m reminded of this classic by Sean O’boyle

Nobody likes me
Everybody hates me
Guess I'll go eat worms
Big fat juicy ones
Long thin slimey ones
Itsy bitsy, fuzzy wuzzy worms
Downgoes the first one
Down goes the second one
Oh how they wiggle and squirm
Big fat juicy ones
Long thin slimey ones
Itsy bitsy, fuzzy wuzzy worms
Up comes the first one
Up comes the second one
Oh how they wiggle and squirm
Big fat juicy ones
Long thin slimey ones
Itsy bitsy, fuzzy wuzzy worms
No body likes me
Every body hates me
Guess I'll go eat worms
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Agree about the diversity, disagree that it is getting more diverse. Agree about bullying, disagree that there is less bullying.
Can you give a few recent examples for bullying please?
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:02
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Since we are on page 28 I thought I should do an update.

A member who posts less than 1 post a day complained that another poster who posts 8 times a day had made an inappropriate comment. He was so outraged that he was unable to report the post.

Eventually the post was reported by 2 people 1 minute apart. I removed the comment within a few minutes. I then got an earful from the original complainer making demands, he was also complaining to management, so I felt it was out of my hands.

Loads of outrage, other members express interest in deleting their accounts.

All the liberals seem to hate FMF, of course this is nothing new, FMF has a thick skin, learning difficulties along with the odd physical impairment so was regularly called all the forbidden words that came up in the thread for the first 25 years of his life.

Another member believes FMF is not a responsible adult.

Apparently the conservatives have taken over the asylum

Nobody has deleted their accounts to date.

Did I miss anything?


I like the <<He was so outraged that he was unable to report the post.>>

I'm only on page 19, you should change your layout - it looks a lot less dire.
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Contrary to what it might seem, we don't all live 24/7 on this forum. Please try to be patient, and don't automatically assume that no action = endorsement of a statement. Particularly when "only" 40 minutes have elapsed on a Saturday.

No big deal, but 2 mod's posted within that 40 min's, if you check the history.



When mod's are actively posting on a thread with such content on it, and the content remains without comment, it isn't obvious to me how having patience would help (if you fancy taking the time to explain that to me, I'd be grateful, since it isn't clear to me).
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:04
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...Did I miss anything?
You've started to refer to yourself in the third person, which is a bit strange.

Also, not everyone who agrees with you is a "conservative" and everyone who disagrees is a "liberal". It's more nuanced than that.

Edit to reply to Cliini without making another post:
I can't speak for other mods, but I don't keep my EF email open all the time. If I did, I'd lose my mind. I look at reports maybe once a day. It's entirely possible I'd be participating on a thread and not view a particular comment as offensive at the time, and keep moving. Later when checking reports I might see it in a different light and think okay, that was a bit much.

We have to keep in mind that EF is a very diverse group of people from all over the world. We have a lot of language differences despite all speaking English. There are some cultures who find a particular word offensive and others who don't think anything of it at all.

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Old 25.07.2021, 15:08
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Also, not everyone who agrees with you is a "conservative" and everyone who disagrees is a "liberal". It's more nuanced than that.
I was recapping on what I thought I had read, not my personal view.

A good example would the UK's Conservative Party & the BREXIT debate, you don't need to agree & can change your position at any time.
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:09
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No big deal, but 2 mod's posted within that 40 min's, if you check the history.



When mod's are actively posting on a thread with such content on it, and the content remains without comment, it isn't obvious to me how having patience would help (if you fancy taking the time to explain that to me, I'd be grateful, since it isn't clear to me).
Seeing that reported posts are NOT shown on EF but a separate email account, it is normal that it takes a while as not everyone checks that email every 30 minutes.

Also see what 3wishes already said.
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:16
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I can't speak for other mods, but I don't keep my EF email open all the time. If I did, I'd lose my mind. I look at reports maybe once a day. It's entirely possible I'd be participating on a thread and not view a particular comment as offensive at the time, and keep moving. Later when checking reports I might see it in a different light and think okay, that was a bit much.
It's also possible in a fast moving thread, especially when on a mobile phone that you have only skim read or not read every comment.
Mods can't use the ignore function so occasionally don't bother to read every post in every thread.
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:18
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What's the typical number/range of reports you receive per day?
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:21
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I think Mods should have their pay halved for every reported post they react late to, and halved for every unreported post they didn't respond to, although they could have.

This should act as a genuine incentive to the moderators to perform around the clock 24/7 with their massive remuneration package in the balance.
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:25
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I think Mods should have their pay halved for every reported post they react late to, and halved for every unreported post they didn't respond to, although they could have.

This should act as a genuine incentive to the moderators to perform around the clock 24/7 with their massive remuneration package in the balance.
Yea, as 0 / 0 is still zero
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:28
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What's the typical number/range of reports you receive per day?
7 from yesterday but just 2 members.

Some members report many times a week.

The person who reported the original complaint at the beginning of the thread has not complained since, hence the immediate action as it's probably important.
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Old 25.07.2021, 15:34
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Can you give a few recent examples for bullying please?
I have reported instances to other moderators. I am reluctant to respond to you because I find you to be very angry. I don’t like to interact with angry people. If you find that to be a psychological defect on my part, so be it.


However a good example in this thread is where FMF refused to answer directly about deleting my account culminating in telling me I was like another member he is fond of dissing. And all the resultant groans. Maybe you don’t think that’s bullying. I do. I was told to think of this as banter. Not to me. I asked the question because I knew EB was leaving.

For now, I’ll see what happens wirh Eb’s replacement and decide.
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However a good example in this thread is where FMF refused to answer directly about deleting my account culminating in telling me I was like another member he is fond of dissing. And all the resultant groans. Maybe you don’t think that’s bullying. I do.
My answer would have done the job at the time, the Editor Bob administrator account was the only active admin account at the time. I don't see it as bullying.

I don't expect you will notice any changes with the new administrator
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I have reported instances to other moderators. I am reluctant to respond to you because I find you to be very angry. I don’t like to interact with angry people. If you find that to be a psychological defect on my part, so be it.
"This is the problem with you" is quite different from saying that you have psychological problems, which you imply by asking for a diagnosis. That's what I call putting words in my mouth, and yes I reserve the right to react in an unkind way to this kind of misrepresentation, especially after you've clearly ignored the qualifiers in what I said before just so you can "disprove" what I didn't say in the first place.
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7 from yesterday but just 2 members.

Some members report many times a week.
Alright, who's the Karen here?
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Old 25.07.2021, 16:37
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Alright, who's the Karen here?
The sort of of member that complain about useless moderators who don't instantly respond or ignore their responses. They believe that EF should have a customer services hotline manned (possibly abusive term) 24/7 365 days a year.
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"This is the problem with you" is quite different from saying that you have psychological problems, which you imply by asking for a diagnosis. That's what I call putting words in my mouth, and yes I reserve the right to react in an unkind way to this kind of misrepresentation, especially after you've clearly ignored the qualifiers in what I said before just so you can "disprove" what I didn't say in the first place.
Oh that. I’m still trying to understand your response there. Please reserve whatever rights you want. It’s more your constant harangue wrt feminism, wokevists (whatever that is) and BLM.
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The sort of of member that complain about useless moderators who don't instantly respond or ignore their responses. They believe that EF should have a customer services hotline manned (possibly abusive term) 24/7 365 days a year.
Well, now that you mention it, how come the mods private handy-numbers are not published in the mods-list? (sorry, mobile numbers for the Brits).
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