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Old 25.07.2021, 21:09
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Oh I agree, itís always Tomís fault

To answer your question pancakes (solely from my point of view), yes people were exactly the same 10 years ago. We were all yakking and complaining and we were also kind and helpful, just like now.

The difference I see is due to Covid. It really has underlined harsh reality and has erased the maybes and inbetweens.
People are tired. Theyíve had trying times, with loss of dreams and jobs and tragically loved ones.
Some cry and fold, others lash out.

As long as we realize this about ourselves and each other maybe we can have more patience and understanding.

I really miss many who have left or no longer write.
Hope they are well and that theyíll return one day.
I agree with this. There are times when EF is a bit more friendly and supportive, and times when it's a bit more snarky and combative. Overall, I think not much has changed. People have always complained about the treatment of newbies, unsocial/unfriendly posts, and mods (and Tom) . Members have sometimes been very active, then very quiet. It ebbs and flows.
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Old 25.07.2021, 21:13
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I had an accident 3 years ago, people were very supportive then, 241 posts so in the same ball park.
https://www.englishforum.ch/sports-f...-ski-fall.html
Except my point was not about the number of responses, that was just a way to find the thread. But yes, people were very supportive in your thread.
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Old 25.07.2021, 21:19
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Except my point was not about the number of responses, that was just a way to find the thread. But yes, people were very supportive in your thread.
I think the forum has & always will be supportive of members.

I find people are generally friendly, helpful & supportive, often the people I would have never expected are the most helpful & supportive.
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There is no group that has "won." There are at most, about 15 people that appear to lean to the right that post regularly on this forum. I can't even really speak for the politics of some of the ones that get accused of being trolls...

WRT closing the thread, if it bothers you, why visit and continue to post? I just don't get that anyone who doesn't like the content, continues to spend time reading/posting and being bothered. Sorry, but it's your circle and you have a simple solution for yourself.

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Someone please close this thread: itís just going around in circles, including accusing past mods of things they canít defend. FMF and MC and their supporters won. Congratulations. Now can we move on?
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Old 25.07.2021, 23:09
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Referring to the thread title: Maybe all accounts should be deleted and only those return who can stomach the place.
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Old 25.07.2021, 23:37
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It is certainly a valid argument that the PC/language police are a large part of the problem because of statements like "Language evolves and we need to evolve with it..." No... one (not we) does not have to evolve with it. Adults can choose their words as they see fit.

Maybe these adults suffer the consequences of their usage of "bad" words from certain groups that follow/develop these ever evolving rules. Adults can also choose to say "eff off" to these rules. I, for one, will choose my own words and you are free to interpret them as you see fit and shun me if you want to. Won't bother me in the least.


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Language evolves and we need to evolve with it.

Idiot was probably considered unacceptable years ago but has now become a commonly used mildly insulting word now. Idiocy is not classed as a medical condition now.
Who knows if retard will become mainstream and acceptable in the future? Maybe it will, maybe it wonít but at the current time it is not a term that should be used generally.

Cretin has not been an acceptable word for ages, Iíve not heard anyone use that term in a very long time.
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Old 25.07.2021, 23:43
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Pls, it most certainly is not. Again, the number of right leaning folks on this forum pales in comparison to the moderates, left leaning and full blown SJW. Granted, there have been some long discussion threads recently, but keep in mind that they are almost all in the Off Topic section where people go (mostly) for the lulz...

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For all the complaints about an echo chamber, this is turning into one. But now itís on the right side.
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Old 25.07.2021, 23:46
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It is certainly a valid argument that the PC/language police are a large part of the problem because of statements like "Language evolves and we need to evolve with it..." No... one (not we) does not have to evolve with it. Adults can choose their words as they see fit.

Maybe these adults suffer the consequences of their usage of "bad" words from certain groups that follow/develop these ever evolving rules. Adults can also choose to say "eff off" to these rules. I, for one, will choose my own words and you are free to interpret them as you see fit and shun me if you want to. Won't bother me in the least.
Not to mention that we evolve and language follows. (Which shows when youngsters roll their eyes when we use expressions that were cool in the old days, LOL).
This tendency of people creating a language pattern and expect the world to subjugate to it is weird, to put it mildly.
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Old 25.07.2021, 23:57
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I have true admiration for people like ennui who beat cancer and stayed positive and upbeat and FMF who after a serious accident picked himself up and got on with it.
Thanks to both of you.
I like to read people with encouraging strength of character.
(Iím injured and healing slowly, positive stories give me hope)

@fudvall youíve touched a sensitive nerve.
I cringe when reading any rhetoric leaning to the right.
But then again, even if I do not agree, with whom would I, or others, debate if we all had the same opinion?
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Old 26.07.2021, 01:13
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I don't mind debate as long as people can do it intelligently and without it evolving into a heated argument, especially where personal attacks are made... Or where people argue just for the sake of proving themselves to be right and the other person wrong. I think it's a sign of intelligence and "emotional maturity" to be able to admit when you're wrong or that you simply don't know something. We can't know everything, after all.

Sometimes I do wonder if some of the behavior in this forum is partly governed by the awareness or feeling that we are being judged by others here. I guess that goes back to that Sartre quote I posted here last week or so: "Hell is other people." I guess he meant that in the context that "hell" is being enslaved by the perceptions of others.

Anyways, sorry to ramble... It's late and I can't sleep. But above all else, I guess I wish that we could all start trying to be more respectful of one another here. "Do unto others..." and all that. Just because someone disagrees with you or doesn't share your perspective doesn't necessarily mean they're a bad person. I guess we all are who we are for a reason.
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Old 26.07.2021, 06:42
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Donít believe so. (And yes, I was a member under a different Id between 2007 and 2020)
There was enough for some to start their own forum so yes, there were phases when the board was filled with frustration, etc. however, when it comes to issues and politics, Iíve never seen the forum filled with as many conservative opinions as there are now. Iíve also never seen it as dull in wit as it is now. I miss those witty remarks that brings a much needed comedy relief to various dry topics.

Thankfully, people are continuing to be helpful and welcoming.
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I don't believe it is or ever has been here.

For info at least 2 members of the mod team have had a Black partner in the last 10 years. I have only met the partner of 1 other mod, so I don't think anyone can play the racist card here or against me.
What does that have to do with anything?
Itís like saying ĎI have black friends so I canít be racistí.
Itís also nobodyís business but theirs who the mods choose to have relationships with.
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There is no group that has "won." There are at most, about 15 people that appear to lean to the right that post regularly on this forum. I can't even really speak for the politics of some of the ones that get accused of being trolls...

WRT closing the thread, if it bothers you, why visit and continue to post? I just don't get that anyone who doesn't like the content, continues to spend time reading/posting and being bothered. Sorry, but it's your circle and you have a simple solution for yourself.
I disagree with one point and agree with another. I probably should stop posting here as I really donít have anything new to say and it just continues to go in circles but man, the kryptonite is strong.
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Old 26.07.2021, 08:02
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It is certainly a valid argument that the PC/language police are a large part of the problem because of statements like "Language evolves and we need to evolve with it..." No... one (not we) does not have to evolve with it. Adults can choose their words as they see fit.

Maybe these adults suffer the consequences of their usage of "bad" words from certain groups that follow/develop these ever evolving rules. Adults can also choose to say "eff off" to these rules. I, for one, will choose my own words and you are free to interpret them as you see fit and shun me if you want to. Won't bother me in the least.
You can choose to do whatever you like but it is a fact that language does evolve.
New words come into use and are being added to the dictionary all the time and others fall out of favour.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with being PC and policing language, the example in this thread just happened to be a contentious word.

I donít for one minute believe that you do not use things like Ďto googleí or Ďsmartphoneí etc. none of which existed a hundred years ago.
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Old 26.07.2021, 08:16
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Hey FMF
Can I open a test account too?
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Old 26.07.2021, 09:50
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Can I open a test account too?
If you become a moderator yes.
I suspect it's one of the few accounts that has never made a post but has banning history
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There was enough for some to start their own forum so yes, there were phases when the board was filled with frustration, etc. however, when it comes to issues and politics, Iíve never seen the forum filled with as many conservative opinions as there are now. Iíve also never seen it as dull in wit as it is now. I miss those witty remarks that brings a much needed comedy relief to various dry topics.

Thankfully, people are continuing to be helpful and welcoming.
There is plenty of comedy relief, just different people are laughing.

A quote from Fawlty Towers.
Basil 'We used to laugh more when we were younger'
Sybil 'yes, just not at the same time'
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Old 26.07.2021, 10:01
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If you become a moderator yes.
I suspect it's one of the few accounts that has never made a post but has banning history
You can't ban test without reason, they are one of the most balanced members on here. Excellent listener, never stirs the pot.

I demand an apology.
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You can't ban test without reason, they are one of the most balanced members on here. Excellent listener, never stirs the pot.

I demand an apology.
The ban was lifted within a few minutes
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There is plenty of comedy relief, just different people are laughing.

A quote from Fawlty Towers.
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Sybil 'yes, just not at the same time'


I always watch this to feel better. That awkward moments are not reserved only for teachers.
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