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Belgianmum 17.07.2021 12:27

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Originally Posted by vushka (Post 3328761)
That's easy - stop being so easily offended.

Eh?

komsomolez 17.07.2021 12:31

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I find Jim's reaction exaggerated and overly dramatic. On the other hand, let's not pretend that Tom's statement was anywhere close to appropriate by splitting hairs over what "Nazi" and "German" means.

jacek 17.07.2021 12:32

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Originally Posted by komsomolez (Post 3328769)
I find Jim's reaction exaggerated and overly dramatic. On the other hand, let's not pretend that Tom's statement was anywhere close to appropriate by splitting hairs over what "Nazi" and "German" means.

Then I recommend that Tom apologizes to Jim and Jim abandons his intention to quit. Simples!

FairDinkum 17.07.2021 12:33

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Chuff:p really?? The other day I was talking about covid measures with a german-dutch guy.. and he said "they're all nazis" I was like "yeah but the dutch .." he said , they're nazis too!

..and this has been said in that informal way when you want to describe a certain organsied behaviour. I've called like that and also the ward "fascho" some memebers of my family even my favorite pet.

Tom's comment was really stupid because the OP wasnt even talking about germany or anything like that.. and it did look like he either wanted to create a fight or was so bored that only those 4 words came to his head and he wanted to type them and click -post- :o

Wish he explains what was the point of that comment, why he even bothered to type that... auhhh:)

amogles 17.07.2021 12:39

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Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3328771)
Chuff:p really?? The other day I was talking about covid measures with a german-dutch guy.. and he said "they're all nazis" I was like "yeah but the dutch .." he said , they're nazis too!

..and this has been said in that informal way when you want to describe a certain organsied behaviour. I've called like that and also the ward "fascho" some memebers of my family even my favorite pet.

Tom's comment was really stupid because the OP wasnt even talking about germany or anything like that.. and it did look like he either wanted to create a fight or was so bored that only those 4 words came to his head and he wanted to type them and click -post- :o

Wish he explains what was the point of that comment, why he even bothered to type that... auhhh:)

Sometimes discussions can get heated and we get too invested and sometimes our fingers type faster than our brains can keep up.

Many of the recent spats have been caused by

1) people saying something that is obviously stupid or offensive
2) it being pointed out to them
3) their pride getting the better of them and them then digging the hole deeper rather than simply admitting, yeah, I shouldn't have said that.

There is no shame in taking back your words.

Belgianmum 17.07.2021 12:43

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Originally Posted by komsomolez (Post 3328769)
I find Jim's reaction exaggerated and overly dramatic. On the other hand, let's not pretend that Tom's statement was anywhere close to appropriate by splitting hairs over what "Nazi" and "German" means.

Tom posts to be provocative, I think pretty much everyone knows that.

He often crosses the line though and some of his posts are unacceptable. I didn’t see the post in question so can’t comment on that one specifically.

amogles 17.07.2021 12:49

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328776)
Tom posts to be provocative, I think pretty much everyone knows that.

He often crosses the line though and some of his posts are unacceptable. I didnít see the post in question so canít comment on that one specifically.

Tom lives in the fast lane. He can dish it out but he can just as well stick it in.

OBone 17.07.2021 12:51

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Iíve got to admit these days the forum has become more about gossip that being helpful. And of the genuine questions which do get asked have been asked several times before so you get the standard reply of search the forum you lazy ******.

Sad but true

Itís nice though to see the older members come out and chime in though.

nickatbasel 17.07.2021 12:58

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I wonder what Mark would think about all of this.

Belgianmum 17.07.2021 12:59

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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328779)
Tom lives in the fast lane. He can dish it out but he can just as well stick it in.

He needs to rein it in a bit with the offensive stuff though, there is no need for thatÖ.ever.

MusicChick 17.07.2021 13:01

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Originally Posted by jacek (Post 3328770)
Then I recommend that Tom apologizes to Jim and Jim abandons his intention to quit. Simples!

Jim is German?

Ok. It is getting complicated. :o

Would that cancel the ill intent that was not there?

amogles 17.07.2021 13:02

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328784)
He needs to rein it in a bit with the offensive stuff though, there is no need for thatÖ.ever.

I think you can say the same about may other people, only many of them will dish it out but then can't stick it in when it comes back.

OBone 17.07.2021 13:05

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Originally Posted by nickatbasel (Post 3328783)
I wonder what Mark would think about all of this.

I thought exactly the same thing. Canít help wondering if he would have pulled the plug as itís in a very different place now. Sadly heís not with us any more to give that direction.

jacek 17.07.2021 13:15

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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 3328785)
Jim is German?

Ok. It is getting complicated. :o

Would that cancel the ill intent that was not there?

Itís more like EFís Kindergarten with naughty kids. ;)

Pancakes 17.07.2021 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by komsomolez (Post 3328769)
I find Jim's reaction exaggerated and overly dramatic. On the other hand, let's not pretend that Tom's statement was anywhere close to appropriate by splitting hairs over what "Nazi" and "German" means.

I have a feeling that Jim's emotions were amplified at the time he created this thread, due to being pissed off (or whatever), so that's probably the reason why it comes off as being exaggerated or overly dramatic. Maybe many or most of us can get that way when we're upset about something.

Anyways... wherever Jim is today, I hope he's feeling at peace and is having a nice Saturday. I'm not saying this as a deliberate attempt to put down this forum, but it really is amazing how much more at peace you feel once you step away from the EF (or wherever) long enough for it no longer have the ability to dictate your mood or emotions.

FairDinkum 17.07.2021 13:35

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We can all agree on "It was better before" :p I mean everything;) even nutella or coca-cola, or those fragrant chewing gums from the 80ties ;)

The thing is , it's all about your perception..So people who joined the forum 10y ago were younger, they were excited about certain things, great enthusiasm about everything..And of course many years after you get fed up with the same thing then some newcomers with their same questions answered million times, then some new people who think they know better etc etc.. You yourself you're not the same person as 10y ago how come a forum should be. ?
Especially how things are accelerating.. technology,propaganda, new normal.. (have you noticed how everything that's supposed to be at least a real article is with a paywall or everything else is with millions of ads or a blocker for your blocker for ads, anyhow all papers -intellectual property is corporate and is their to tell you what to think is important etc..) then most forums,platforms are dead , FB has taken it all .. I want to say , the internet has changed to so much it's frightening and there's a law proposal in france to even control our use of internet (like a social credit system, you get a warning then no internet for you, paying fines just like in traffic ) :D

It's true also how there's this fashion of snowflaking ;)) everyone is ofended by something :)) Yesterday I had to do a lot of shopping and post office and I was going in the car getting out of it ,going in the shop then out, hundreds of times and I had the mask on/off/on/off and at one stage I was driving and I wanted to put it on (me the professional anti-masker) and I said to myself , "omg I totally Susie-O-Queued today" thinking of my Susie here :o ... and I thought , I better not say this on the forum how I'm susie-o-queuing when running errands, she might get upset and offended that I dare to think about her and the masks ;))

Again, we've come to that stage when even some basic banter and a joke is taking a risk when on contrary as we get older we should be much more relaxed, unfettered, liberated ...

roegner 17.07.2021 13:48

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Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3328796)
We can all agree on "It was better before" :p I mean everything;) even nutella or coca-cola, or those fragrant chewing gums from the 80ties ;)

The thing is , it's all about your perception..So people who joined the forum 10y ago were younger, they were excited about certain things, great enthusiasm about everything..And of course many years after you get fed up with the same thing then some newcomers with their same questions answered million times, then some new people who think they know better etc etc.. You yourself you're not the same person as 10y ago how come a forum should be. ?
Especially how things are accelerating.. technology,propaganda, new normal.. (have you noticed how everything that's supposed to be at least a real article is with a paywall or everything else is with millions of ads or a blocker for your blocker for ads, anyhow all papers -intellectual property is corporate and is their to tell you what to think is important etc..) then most forums,platforms are dead , FB has taken it all .. I want to say , the internet has changed to so much it's frightening and there's a law proposal in france to even control our use of internet (like a social credit system, you get a warning then no internet for you, paying fines just like in traffic ) :D

It's true also how there's this fashion of snowflaking ;)) everyone is ofended by something :)) Yesterday I had to do a lot of shopping and post office and I was going in the car getting out of it ,going in the shop then out, hundreds of times and I had the mask on/off/on/off and at one stage I was driving and I wanted to put it on (me the professional anti-masker) and I said to myself , "omg I totally Susie-O-Queued today" thinking of my Susie here :o ... and I thought , I better not say this on the forum how I'm susie-o-queuing when running errands, she might get upset and offended that I dare to think about her and the masks ;))

..

Can you please stop harassing and/or baiting other users?

Tom1234 17.07.2021 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328775)

There is no shame in taking back your words.

Which you would never do and have never done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328786)
I think you can say the same about may other people, only many of them will dish it out but then can't stick it in when it comes back.

Are you describing yourself?

newtoswitz 17.07.2021 14:08

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Sorry to see you go Jim.

Since even this thread has turned into an argument it's not hard to see why.

OBone 17.07.2021 14:11

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Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3328796)
We can all agree on "It was better before" :p I mean everything;) even nutella or coca-cola, or those fragrant chewing gums from the 80ties ;)

The thing is , it's all about your perception..So people who joined the forum 10y ago were younger, they were excited about certain things, great enthusiasm about everything..And of course many years after you get fed up with the same thing then some newcomers with their same questions answered million times, then some new people who think they know better etc etc.. You yourself you're not the same person as 10y ago how come a forum should be. ?
Especially how things are accelerating.. technology,propaganda, new normal.. (have you noticed how everything that's supposed to be at least a real article is with a paywall or everything else is with millions of ads or a blocker for your blocker for ads, anyhow all papers -intellectual property is corporate and is their to tell you what to think is important etc..) then most forums,platforms are dead , FB has taken it all .. I want to say , the internet has changed to so much it's frightening and there's a law proposal in france to even control our use of internet (like a social credit system, you get a warning then no internet for you, paying fines just like in traffic ) :D

It's true also how there's this fashion of snowflaking ;)) everyone is ofended by something :)) Yesterday I had to do a lot of shopping and post office and I was going in the car getting out of it ,going in the shop then out, hundreds of times and I had the mask on/off/on/off and at one stage I was driving and I wanted to put it on (me the professional anti-masker) and I said to myself , "omg I totally Susie-O-Queued today" thinking of my Susie here :o ... and I thought , I better not say this on the forum how I'm susie-o-queuing when running errands, she might get upset and offended that I dare to think about her and the masks ;))

Again, we've come to that stage when even some basic banter and a joke is taking a risk when on contrary as we get older we should be much more relaxed, unfettered, liberated ...

I think therein lies the point. Youíve written a load of stuff which is not interesting or useful to the forum.

This was never the original intention of this forum. Itís turning into swisschat for expats to moan about everything, where a lot of it is pointless. The Facebook groups are becoming more useful.

Itís sad but becoming pointless.

FairDinkum 17.07.2021 14:13

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Pretty much the standard EF member face/mood reaction to literary everything

https://i.postimg.cc/LXNLvLVF/Screen...t-13-11-02.png

FairDinkum 17.07.2021 14:18

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O Bone but why do you or someone know what the forum was intented to be for ?
So far, I can see how there's a forum for different things inlcuding jokes, youtube etc.. then people are people, someone will find my banter good someone will hate it .. And this is why we all scroll down because not everyone's comment is interesting .. so no big deal . :)

newtoswitz 17.07.2021 14:19

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Originally Posted by OBone (Post 3328809)
I think therein lies the point. Youíve written a load of stuff which is not interesting or useful to the forum.

This was never the original intention of this forum. Itís turning into swisschat for expats to moan about everything, where a lot of it is pointless. The Facebook groups are becoming more useful.

Itís sad but becoming pointless.

There is the ignore button - I only see stuff from FairDinkum when people quote it...

amogles 17.07.2021 14:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3328803)
Which you would never do and have never done.

I think I have more often than you.

And you know it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3328803)
Are you describing yourself?

You are among those I was describing.

Belgianmum 17.07.2021 14:25

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Originally Posted by OBone (Post 3328809)
I think therein lies the point. Youíve written a load of stuff which is not interesting or useful to the forum.

This was never the original intention of this forum. Itís turning into swisschat for expats to moan about everything, where a lot of it is pointless. The Facebook groups are becoming more useful.

Itís sad but becoming pointless.

Does anyone actually read those posts by Fairdinkum?
I think he is trying to be funny but I canít be sure as the massive wall of text is just off putting and I canít be bothered to read it.


As for the rest of it I completely agree.

Maybe thatís the way the Local wants the forum to go but itís very far removed from what it was when I joined.

It really isnít the friendly, helpful place it once was. I can quite see why newbies donít stick around anymore given they way theyíre treated most if the time.

Tom1234 17.07.2021 14:39

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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328816)

You are among those I was describing.

Pointless arguing with trolls so I won't.

Back to ignore...

amogles 17.07.2021 14:52

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3328820)
Pointless arguing with trolls so I won't.

Back to ignore...

Case in point.

You had to make a personal attack out of a general statement.

And are now calling names.

Tom1234 17.07.2021 15:01

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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328823)
Case in point.

You had to make a personal attack out of a general statement.

And are now calling names.

Better than your passive-aggressive posts - and not just to me apparently.

Anyway personal attacks are allowed now - especially ones where people accuse other people of sending PMs which they didn't.

Is this your example of where you act on what you wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328823)
people saying something that is obviously stupid or offensive
2) it being pointed out to them
3) their pride getting the better of them and them then digging the hole deeper rather than simply admitting, yeah, I shouldn't have said that.

There is no shame in taking back your words..

Or are your bon mots just for other people?

eyebeebe 17.07.2021 15:05

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Originally Posted by OBone (Post 3328809)
I think therein lies the point. Youíve written a load of stuff which is not interesting or useful to the forum.

This was never the original intention of this forum. Itís turning into swisschat for expats to moan about everything, where a lot of it is pointless. The Facebook groups are becoming more useful.

Itís sad but becoming pointless.

Which FB ones. I joined the Brits in Switzerland one last year and itís the same bloody questions about travel and PCR tests 10 times a day, not to mention even more people posting poor opinions as fact than here.

LtSoftDrink 17.07.2021 15:15

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3328757)
He said: "Germans are Nazis", which is contextually the same as saying "all Germans". He didn't say some, or specify any administrative bureaucracy elements, so you certainly do not owe him a beer.

And yup, mods can also of course generally see soft-deleted posts. so they could confirm exactly what was written.


Hypocrisy of the first order is my take on the latest spat around here. St2lemanís remark on Tsherman bureaucracy was (under current sensibilities) perhaps misguided. However, after consultation with a learned colleague, we have decided to plea under the ďgrammatical stressĒ proviso ß 249.24 of 1949, which clearly states that ďareĒ could also mean ďwereĒ. Taken in historical context with Tshermany, it should be clear to even the dimmest lightÖ.anyway, some of my best friends are Tshermans (!) and you donít want to hear their opinion on their bureaucrats. Nor would you necessarily appreciate comments on immigration/refugees Ė especially (joking?) gestures about how high their Alsatians can jump might well be disturbing to quite a few people.

So, we have a bunch of (at least partially) Brits condemning use of the N-word (German context, folks) by a lapsed American, while ďKrautĒ is kind of okay to some. Who won the war anyway?

Then we have the contribution of otec
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Originally Posted by otec (Post 3328747)
Also lots of people who hate Swiss being called Swiss

not the quickest lapper on the intellectual racetrack, reiterating his proud ignorance regarding denomination of his current country of abode. In an ideal grammar nazi world, heíd be taken outside andÖ:D

What I personally find a bit disturbing, is that hyperventilation quickly sets in regarding le thŤme de jour but personal insults are simply ignored by all and sundry => post #12 by chuff https://www.englishforum.ch/leaving-...e-germany.html

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3327979)
Guys come on its st2lemans... he does this stuff for attention because he can't stand to be ignored, yet under normal circumstances has absolutely nothing of value to add to a discussion other than meaningless boasts and serial groans. Every now and then he throw up these particularly outrageous statements to try and stay on the forum radar.

He deserves our pity for being such an emotionally fragile and egotistical wretch; a truly pathetic specimen of a man. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3328563)
Why are such utterly personal attacks allowed to stand? Please delete your post immediately!


amogles 17.07.2021 15:40

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3328824)

Anyway personal attacks are allowed now - especially ones where people accuse other people of sending PMs which they didn't.

You were the one who made that accusation. I thought we had put the matter to rest, but apparently you insist.

marton 17.07.2021 16:09

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328742)
...... plenty of positive people are able to step to replace the negative people drop out.

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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 3328748)
..... The waves of people leaving are seasonal, so are those who want to dictate mods how to "punish", how long for and how fast the mods should react......

But this is now the friendly free speech forum where all opinions are welcomed, right/left, up/down, positive/negative, mod performance.
Or is it more like "Animal Farm" where everyone is equal but some are more equal than others?

marton 17.07.2021 16:22

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Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3328811)
Pretty much the standard EF member face/mood reaction to literary everything

There is another thread where we discuss literature.

Tom1234 17.07.2021 17:00

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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328836)
You were the one who made that accusation. I thought we had put the matter to rest, but apparently you insist.

Delusional too.

I would have let it lie but you decided to put a label on me and others today - describing a behaviour which pretty much sums up the way you act on this forum.

Anyway, while you are being passive-aggressive to me, at least it gives the women on this forum a break from your constant hounding.

Blueangel 17.07.2021 17:23

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328730)
You seemed to know how the mod team at EF worked which is something different.

There have been references to leaks in mod zone, I was just dotting the i's & crossing the t's.

:rofl: If I had 'knowledge' of what goes on in EF's mod zone, why would I ask the question in the first place? Riddle me that eh! :rolleyes: You're taking this place way too seriously.

Pachyderm 17.07.2021 17:24

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Originally Posted by OBone (Post 3328809)
....This was never the original intention of this forum. Itís turning into swisschat for expats to moan about everything, where a lot of it is pointless. The Facebook groups are becoming more useful. Itís sad but becoming pointless.

There probably was a firm 'original intention' but original intentions are allowed to change, either consciously or organically, and 15 or so internet years is a very long time. I disagree about the Facebook groups.

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328817)
.........
Maybe thatís the way the Local wants the forum to go but itís very far removed from what it was when I joined. It really isnít the friendly, helpful place it once was. I can quite see why newbies donít stick around anymore given they way theyíre treated most if the time.

I'm not even sure that it's so very different. I started using the forum in 2009 before I arrived here, and despite all the very useful information, I found it a pretty cliquey and hostile place unless, as a newbie, you expressed yourself in the right way. It took me a while to work out that I had to be sort of deferential and ask nothing that could be perceived as uppity or revealing any character weakness. This ignoble tradition persists, with newbies who complain about parking/speeding fines, or horrible neighbours/landlords, or who need help after experiencing a work or relationship problem. usually inviting a merciless pile-on from all the usual suspects. There are pockets of extreme smugness, hostility, intolerance and unkindness here, and there always have been.

greenmount 17.07.2021 17:41

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Originally Posted by marton (Post 3328846)
There is another thread where we discuss literature.

Note that this thread is the least updated...:o

Wonder why? :rofl:

fatmanfilms 17.07.2021 18:02

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 3328851)
:rofl: If I had 'knowledge' of what goes on in EF's mod zone, why would I ask the question in the first place? Riddle me that eh! :rolleyes: You're taking this place way too seriously.

Your memory is not good, you told me how the mod group works, along with your serial groans it is looking more suspicious than I originally thought.

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 3328634)
No, but I do know that a single mod's decision can be outvoted and over-ridden by the group.


Talk to you later 17.07.2021 18:10

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So much DRAMA!!! All of you, calm the F down and play flounce bingo :p

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d8/5c/28/d...face-photo.jpg

marton 17.07.2021 18:11

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328867)
Your memory is not good, you told me how the mod group works, along with your serial groans it is looking more suspicious than I originally thought.

Is there something in the EF rules and regulations that forbids members from knowing how the mod zone works?
Your posts on this topic make me suspicious that there is a skeleton in the mod zone to hide.


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