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Impeccably researched, as always. How are the Aromat shares doing?
Probably great. MSG is a neurotransmitter.
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Probably great. MSG is a neurotransmitter.
*peers over glasses with a raised eyebrow*

Not quite

MSG is a sodium salt of glutamic acid. Glutamate is an excitatory neurotransmitter that is naturally produced in the brain (endogenous glutamate). The glutamate in MSG is typically ingested orally (exogenous glutamate) and unlikely to pass the blood brain barrier in sufficient quantities to increase the glutamate concentration in the brain*, which it would have to do in order to have any effect on brain activity.

The demonisation of MSG in certain circles has much more to do with racist attitudes than any demonstrable noxious effect on the human brain - there is no such thing as "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome". While many people report getting headaches and other side effects from consuming MSG, there is currently no conclusive scientific evidence that supports a causal effect - correlation is not causation.

Even if it did cross the brain barrier and have any impact, it would not be a neurotransmitter in itself, but a glutamate receptor agonist**.

*Anyone who has more in-depth knowledge of neurophysiology is welcome to disagree. Don't even think of citing MindBodyGreen as a source to contradict me, if it's not from a peer-reviewed journal, it's probably not actual science.

**Depending on the species, it may merely be a modulator.
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Nutritional studies by the University of Thayngen strongly support evidence that the natural beauty and physical fitness of Swiss females has a strong relationship with excessive use of Aromat. Professor A.J. Inumoto explains that adding the condiment to mashed up stuff for infants greatly enhances their chances of survival and ensures developing a taste for gourmet pizze.
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Should spend less money on nail salons, high heels and pussy glitter
Well while we are miles off-topic reminds me of the old advertising slogan;

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Probably great. MSG is a neurotransmitter.
I have no idea why people demonize it. Makes me remember even stuff I don't want to.
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Kittster, now that you say how you understand this matter...Then how come you're not even making a distinction between monosodium glutamate the one that's been isolated and synthetic and the one that occurs in nature.(our food)

And because it stimulates our nerve cells so the signal is passed on it does make it excitatory neurotransmitter. Also it leads to excesss of glutamate in the brain (which in natural form if you consume it it wont happen)

There is absolutely not a single reason why it should be added to our food. Not a single tiny reason. No purpose whatsoever. (appart decadence,fun)
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Kittster, now that you say how you understand this matter...Then how come you're not even making a distinction between monosodium glutamate the one that's been isolated and synthetic and the one that occurs in nature.(our food)

And because it stimulates our nerve cells so the signal is passed on it does make it excitatory neurotransmitter. Also it leads to excesss of glutamate in the brain (which in natural form if you consume it it wont happen)

There is absolutely not a single reason why it should be added to our food. Not a single tiny reason. No purpose whatsoever. (appart decadence,fun)
Try reading my post again, you may see the flaw in your reasoning.

Or to quote Fernstrom (2018):
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The key findings have been that (a) the ingestion of MSG in the diet does not produce appreciable increases in glutamate concentrations in blood, except when given experimentally in amounts vastly in excess of normal intake levels; and (b) the blood-brain barrier effectively restricts the passage of glutamate from the blood into the brain, such that brain glutamate levels only rise when blood glutamate concentrations are raised experimentally via non-physiologic means. These and related discoveries explain why the ingestion of MSG in the diet does not lead to an increase in brain glutamate concentrations, and thus does not produce functional disruptions in brain.
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Key findings how interesting.

"these and related discoveries explain why the ingestion of MSG in the diet does not lead to an increase in brain glutamate concentrations, and thus does not produce functional disruptions in brain."

How didnt I think of this genius stuff?


So to make a brief summary..

Humans don't need MSG since it's got no nutritional value , MSG serves us -strictly nothing.
But, the food industry, decided to use MSG and it's going under the E-621 , and you can find it in just about everything.

Tons and tons of MSG are used in the food industry not because it's needed as a preservative, thickening agent, etc.. but because it's a stimulant.. in this lovely scientific text we see how , no no it does not produce disruption in brain.

So what does that msg do according to you and this scientist?
What's the purpose of msg?

Does it just tangle lightly the brain so no big deal here.;) and since it's in everything perhaps it tangles a bit more and more..and how does it happen? do the neurotransmitters do their work? ...

or they use it just for decorative purposes ?
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can this Fernstrom J.D. just go on and do the same thing about cocaine so we bring the sexy back, and we start putting it in Cocacola ,chewing gums and pinacoladas ?
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MSG makes food taste nice, not decorative, not magical brain food.

Next you'll be telling me water is a stimulant, or pepper, as it stimulates nerve endings. Well screw it, my favourite nutritionally useless stimulant is a shower.
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Salt, pepper, chilli, ginger, cinnamon, turmeric is all I need to make all my food tasty
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Key findings how interesting.

"these and related discoveries explain why the ingestion of MSG in the diet does not lead to an increase in brain glutamate concentrations, and thus does not produce functional disruptions in brain."

How didnt I think of this genius stuff?


So to make a brief summary..

Humans don't need MSG since it's got no nutritional value , MSG serves us -strictly nothing.
But, the food industry, decided to use MSG and it's going under the E-621 , and you can find it in just about everything.

Tons and tons of MSG are used in the food industry not because it's needed as a preservative, thickening agent, etc.. but because it's a stimulant.. in this lovely scientific text we see how , no no it does not produce disruption in brain.

So what does that msg do according to you and this scientist?
What's the purpose of msg?

Does it just tangle lightly the brain so no big deal here.;) and since it's in everything perhaps it tangles a bit more and more..and how does it happen? do the neurotransmitters do their work? ...

or they use it just for decorative purposes ?
I could answer all those things but so could you with a competent bit of Googling. Since I actually have a job that I care about a lot more than I do about trying to educate the fact-resistant, I'll leave you with a simple key word to guide you on your way: Umami.
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Key findings how interesting.

"these and related discoveries explain why the ingestion of MSG in the diet does not lead to an increase in brain glutamate concentrations, and thus does not produce functional disruptions in brain."

How didnt I think of this genius stuff?


So to make a brief summary..

Humans don't need MSG since it's got no nutritional value , MSG serves us -strictly nothing.
But, the food industry, decided to use MSG and it's going under the E-621 , and you can find it in just about everything.

Tons and tons of MSG are used in the food industry not because it's needed as a preservative, thickening agent, etc.. but because it's a stimulant.. in this lovely scientific text we see how , no no it does not produce disruption in brain.

So what does that msg do according to you and this scientist?
What's the purpose of msg?

Does it just tangle lightly the brain so no big deal here.;) and since it's in everything perhaps it tangles a bit more and more..and how does it happen? do the neurotransmitters do their work? ...

or they use it just for decorative purposes ?
MSG is used in cooking as a flavor enhancer like salt, pepper, curry, sugar &&&&

Or maybe you prefer your food bland?
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If you need a toxic stimulant, a synthetic chemical in your food so you will eat it , then you need to get weaned of it.

Of course, everyone including you can buy it and add it to your food, as much as you want.

Also, if you say "well I want my food to be nice yellow, red etc" yes add colours as well.

One of the problems in the food industry is them using all of this totally useless for us as species as health and nutrion.. but it does a huge damage to our organism especially young ones who are exposed to it whether they want it or not.

No need now you and Kittster to start praising HCF and probably saying "hmm I like it actually , it taste so nice.." you know what I mean
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A woman can do what pleases her (just like the guy), she can enjoy whatever she wants (just like the guy) , she should not receive prejudice because she has sex for fun (just like men), she should not be stigmatised if she's divorced,etc..
Of course she gets to chose. But choices have consequences.
Just like women get to prefer tall men, men get to favor younger and less promiscuous women. This may be less relevant while they're just having fun, but when it comes to long term relationships and procreation, men will prefer feminine women in their early 20ies pretty much regardless of their own age. The poster case is Leonardo DiCaprio, a man with an abundance of wealth and therefore options, he keeps replacing her when she's 25-26 with a new 20-21yr old.
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Probably I dont need to remind anyone here, how women were not just for centuries but even longer than that have been considered as lower grade beings, no same rights, no same liberties or opportunites...
Forgive me, but that interpretation is nonsensical.

"Save the women and children first" exists for a blatantly obvious reason. Men wouldn't knowingly have given their life since times immemorial if they thought of women as lower beings. Among the Titanic passengers for example, 51% of the children, 75% of the women, but only 18% of the men survived. This is the result of a full host of deliberate choices probably all of which were taken by men.

It's a recent thing, the result of the world built by man, that you no longer have to be able to physically protect and defend your possessions.

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Any group of sufficient size (think millions) will contain exceptions. That just doesn't refute the generalisation.

Look around you, in 80-90-95% of the couples you see the man is at least as tall as her if she doesn't wear any heels, and if he's not clearly taller most women will avoid heels like the plague if it would make them the taller one.
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so dear Marton, read this carefully

salt, pepper, curry, sugar &&&&

Salt - occurs in the nature naturally , fleur de sel , sea salt, also we've got mines..

Pepper - grows on a tree

Curry - is mix of spices (grow on a bush,plant,tree)

Sugar - occurs naturally around us... sugar cane, maple syrup.. beetsugar..

MSG - occurs in a lab by synthesis.. and it's done so your brain will go crazy and you'll crave more and more ... and serotonin stimulance , all bunch of things just so you want to consume more , eat more and make more $$$ for the industry.
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Sugar - occurs naturally around us... sugar cane, maple syrup.. beetsugar..

MSG - occurs in a lab by synthesis.. and it's done so your brain will go crazy and you'll crave more and more ... and serotonin stimulance , all bunch of things just so you want to consume more , eat more and make more $$$ for the industry.
So MSG is a thing for you want to consume more , eat more and make more $$$ for the industry - but sugar is not?
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`Marton just joined us on this planet and here I am, to welcome you Marton

so dear Marton, read this carefully

salt, pepper, curry, sugar &&&&

Salt - occurs in the nature naturally , fleur de sel , sea salt, also we've got mines..

Pepper - grows on a tree

Curry - is mix of spices (grow on a bush,plant,tree)

Sugar - occurs naturally around us... sugar cane, maple syrup.. beetsugar..

MSG - occurs in a lab by synthesis.. and it's done so your brain will go crazy and you'll crave more and more ... and serotonin stimulance , all bunch of things just so you want to consume more , eat more and make more $$$ for the industry.
Of course, whatever amount of beauty products you've listed out previously were found growing as a tuber beneath the Roche factory.
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`Marton just joined us on this planet and here I am, to welcome you Marton

so dear Marton, read this carefully

salt, pepper, curry, sugar &&&&

Salt - occurs in the nature naturally , fleur de sel , sea salt, also we've got mines..

Pepper - grows on a tree

Curry - is mix of spices (grow on a bush,plant,tree)

Sugar - occurs naturally around us... sugar cane, maple syrup.. beetsugar..

MSG - occurs in a lab by synthesis.. and it's done so your brain will go crazy and you'll crave more and more ... and serotonin stimulance , all bunch of things just so you want to consume more , eat more and make more $$$ for the industry.
However in the real world:
MSG occurs naturally in ingredients such as hydrolyzed vegetable protein, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed yeast, yeast extract, soy extracts, and protein isolate, as well as in tomatoes and cheeses.
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