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Tom1234 17.07.2021 18:15

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Anyway, if there are leaks then what exactly is it that the mods are worrying about and trying to hide?

Email address or other personal data leaks are worrying - and it has happened before when a mod downloaded all the personal data to his PC for his own use.

If there are leaks like this then, as users, we should be told.

Belgianmum 17.07.2021 18:15

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328867)
Your memory is not good, you told me how the mod group works, along with your serial groans it is looking more suspicious than I originally thought.

That info in the quote by blueangel was publicly posted on here on more than one occasion by Ace1 when he was still a mod and backed up by other mods. Itís hardly a secret.
It would be impossible to run a mod team effectively if every single member had to be in agreement with every single decision. It would be ludicrous and unworkable if one mod could veto a majority decision.

fatmanfilms 17.07.2021 18:18

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Originally Posted by marton (Post 3328871)
Is there something in the EF rules and regulations that forbids members from knowing how the mod zone works?
Your posts on this topic make me suspicious that there is a skeleton in the mod zone to hide.

Discussions in mod zone are supposed to remain in mod zone, I have noticed posts from several posters that imply they knowledge of things they should not know about.
I was actually expecting a different yet legitimate answer, much too much on the defensive if you ask me.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328874)
That info in the quote by blueangel was publicly posted on here on more than one occasion by Ace1 when he was still a mod and backed up by other mods. It’s hardly a secret.
It would be impossible to run a mod team effectively if every single member had to be in agreement with every single decision. It would be ludicrous and unworkable if one mod could veto a majority decision.

Indeed, I was surprised by the defensive response, when people have info that they should not it becomes difficult to remember what is public domain & what is not.

k_and_e 17.07.2021 18:27

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328874)
It would be impossible to run a mod team effectively if every single member had to be in agreement with every single decision. It would be ludicrous and unworkable if one mod could veto a majority decision.

This is exactly the model of Jim2007's beloved EU:eek:

Blueangel 17.07.2021 18:44

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328867)
Your memory is not good, you told me how the mod group works, along with your serial groans it is looking more suspicious than I originally thought.

I was thinking back to an incident from many years before I came to Switzerland and joined EF, but your response makes it apparent that I've accidentally hit a nerve.

Curiouser and curiouser. :msnwink: :D

fatmanfilms 17.07.2021 18:46

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 3328890)
I was thinking back to an incident from many years before I came to Switzerland and joined EF, but your response makes it apparent that I've accidentally hit a nerve.

Curiouser and curiouser. :msnwink: :D

How would that incident have any bearing on how EF works?

FairDinkum 17.07.2021 18:49

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wow, Tom seems to be in some real cowboy mode here :o insulting germans, then this topic inspired by Tom's work, then Tom's comments hit below the belt and gets away with it not even a scratch..and all that's fine with the usual "la justicia divina" group here who are tearing me apart for even making an abstract joke and me I'm having the mods giving me yellow cards :o

Anyhow, even if there's a discussion about levi's 501 it'll end up with a talk about ftf and MC being mods. It's almost an algorithm :D

mossie 17.07.2021 18:52

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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 3328785)
Jim is German?

Ok. It is getting complicated. :o

Would that cancel the ill intent that was not there?

Going by his little badge/icon whatever itís called would guess heís Irish but being a drama Queen doesnít quite fit being a Mick.

MusicChick 17.07.2021 19:10

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Originally Posted by Pachyderm (Post 3328854)
There probably was a firm 'original intention' but original intentions are allowed to change, either consciously or organically, and 15 or so internet years is a very long time. I disagree about the Facebook groups.



I'm not even sure that it's so very different. I started using the forum in 2009 before I arrived here, and despite all the very useful information, I found it a pretty cliquey and hostile place unless, as a newbie, you expressed yourself in the right way. It took me a while to work out that I had to be sort of deferential and ask nothing that could be perceived as uppity or revealing any character weakness. This ignoble tradition persists, with newbies who complain about parking/speeding fines, or horrible neighbours/landlords, or who need help after experiencing a work or relationship problem. usually inviting a merciless pile-on from all the usual suspects. There are pockets of extreme smugness, hostility, intolerance and unkindness here, and there always have been.

Pachy - I think you described poignantly some stuff that happens, generally, in online communities. It is really true. It is like really painful baby-teething we have to get through. I think you are dead correct about some of the negative things we see imature people engage in..

I do have to say that, no matter how abnoxious that is, I do not think that it is exclusive to our EF. And that these catharctic spats would be the most we can get from our community. Nor that we mods can really weed it out by over-bearing stern moderation. Community's and our ocassional intervention helps but I think people are growing out of that toxic, mobby and negative attitude, honestly. It will just take a bit longer.

On the other hand, there are so many more positive and smart things about EF than what you described, that I am not panicking. I do think that it is good for us to be reminded, though, so - thanks.

amogles 17.07.2021 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3328873)
Anyway, if there are leaks then what exactly is it that the mods are worrying about and trying to hide?

Email address or other personal data leaks are worrying - and it has happened before when a mod downloaded all the personal data to his PC for his own use.

If there are leaks like this then, as users, we should be told.

The mods may have knowledge of private information about members which they may not wish to be made public.

Even if such information is not disclosed directly it may be implicit in the discussion.

amogles 17.07.2021 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marton (Post 3328871)
Is there something in the EF rules and regulations that forbids members from knowing how the mod zone works?
Your posts on this topic make me suspicious that there is a skeleton in the mod zone to hide.

If you think it is legitimate to share information, may we at least know which mod is the source of the information?

If it was legitimate to share it, they wouldn't need to be hiding the fact.

schoggiweggli 17.07.2021 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mossie (Post 3328895)
Going by his little badge/icon whatever itís called would guess heís Irish but being a drama Queen doesnít quite fit being a Mick.

Red card!
You canít call the Irish micks, paddies or bog trotters.

LtSoftDrink 17.07.2021 19:47

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Originally Posted by schoggiweggli (Post 3328900)
Red card!
You canít call the Irish micks, paddies or bog trotters.

Sure you can, just stand up and ...

mossie 17.07.2021 19:52

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Originally Posted by schoggiweggli (Post 3328900)
Red card!
You can’t call the Irish micks, paddies or bog trotters.

I can as I’m a Mick����

I would love to tell you what I think of the Brits but May get into trouble��

Pachyderm 17.07.2021 19:55

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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 3328896)
Pachy - I think you described poignantly some stuff that happens, generally, in online communities. It is really true. It is like really painful baby-teething we have to get through. I think you are dead correct about some of the negative things we see imature people engage in..

I do have to say that, no matter how abnoxious that is, I do not think that it is exclusive to our EF. And that these catharctic spats would be the most we can get from our community. Nor that we mods can really weed it out by over-bearing stern moderation. Community's and our ocassional intervention helps but I think people are growing out of that toxic, mobby and negative attitude, honestly. It will just take a bit longer.

On the other hand, there are so many more positive and smart things about EF than what you described, that I am not panicking. I do think that it is good for us to be reminded, though, so - thanks.

There are doubtless many positive things about EF. I'm not even saying that EF is worse than other internet forums. Indeed it's significantly better than many I've known. I was answering a previous poster who said that it is much worse than it used to be. Maybe it has got worse, I don't know, but my point was that I don't remember it ever being a wholly happy-clappy, friendly place, especially to new members. There's always been a very grumpy fringe of cliquey, long-time users. But it's true that there has also always been a majority of helpful, pleasant members, and long may that continue.

LtSoftDrink 17.07.2021 20:04

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Originally Posted by mossie (Post 3328909)
I can as Iím a Mick����

I would love to tell you what I think of the Brits but May get into trouble��

You should be okay. Theresa has been stomping around the fields of gold for quite while...

marton 17.07.2021 20:16

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Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328897)
The mods may have knowledge of private information about members which they may not wish to be made public.

Even if such information is not disclosed directly it may be implicit in the discussion.

Sharing private information about members is definitely against EF rules, please tell us which mods did this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amogles (Post 3328898)
If you think it is legitimate to share information, may we at least know which mod is the source of the information?

If it was legitimate to share it, they wouldn't need to be hiding the fact.

I see you are joining FMF's fact-free fishing expedition, even the former mods did not descend to McCarthyism

Talk to you later 17.07.2021 20:21

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Can everyone chill out? Baby Trumps all over the place. What the hell is everyone arguing about anyway? Actually, keep arguing, help EB and forum traffic :D

Anjela 17.07.2021 20:24

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328817)
Does anyone actually read those posts by Fairdinkum?
I think he is trying to be funny but I canít be sure as the massive wall of text is just off putting and I canít be bothered to read it.


As for the rest of it I completely agree.

Maybe thatís the way the Local wants the forum to go but itís very far removed from what it was when I joined.

It really isnít the friendly, helpful place it once was. I can quite see why newbies donít stick around anymore given they way theyíre treated most if the time.

Fairdinkum's female, the rather aggressive tone is misleading.
I've tried reading her posts but find them hard to follow due to the lack of proper punctuation and fake-angry gabbling... tricky to make any sense of whatever nonsense it is they're banging on about.

I regrets Jim's decision to leave; although I haven't always agree with him he's been consistently helpful to anyone in need of advice.
And he's had the decency to tell us the why of it beforehand, rather than get someone else to pass on their (post-flounce) leaving message.

otec 17.07.2021 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328817)
Does anyone actually read those posts by Fairdinkum?
I think he is trying to be funny but I canít be sure as the massive wall of text is just off putting and I canít be bothered to read it.

I did, she actually has very good point.

Belgianmum 17.07.2021 20:45

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Originally Posted by otec (Post 3328919)
I did, she actually has very good point.

Well maybe he should try adding line breaks and paragraphs in order to make it more reader friendly.

komsomolez 17.07.2021 20:52

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328921)
Well maybe he should try adding line breaks and paragraphs in order to make it more reader friendly.

Or coherence.

schoggiweggli 17.07.2021 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mossie (Post 3328909)
I can as Iím a Mick����

I would love to tell you what I think of the Brits but May get into trouble��

Ahh, bro!
Iím ĎJoe Bidení Oirish, 3rd gen Brit, but I did once use a shovel!
And I love Father Ted.
Fill your boots with the insults, no one hates the Brits like the Brits themselves.
Pre the Ďdewokening of the modsí it would have been both expected and applauded.

Talk to you later 17.07.2021 20:56

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Originally Posted by Anjela (Post 3328917)
Fairdinkum's female...


I thought it was a guy :confused: I find him/her entertaining. Btw, how do you lot work out someone's sex on this forum? Is there an initiation ceremony where Mods check member's private parts? :p

schoggiweggli 17.07.2021 20:59

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328925)
I thought it was a guy :confused: I find him/her entertaining. Btw, how do you lot work out someone's sex on this forum? Is there an initiation ceremony where Mods check member's private parts? :p

Itís a bit like sexing a goat.

MusicChick 17.07.2021 21:06

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328925)
I thought it was a guy :confused: I find him/her entertaining. Btw, how do you lot work out someone's sex on this forum? Is there an initiation ceremony where Mods check member's private parts? :p

Are you going to re-register?

Btw - I am shocked that the assumed clichťs are only F/M and not the other genders.

Belgianmum 17.07.2021 21:28

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Originally Posted by komsomolez (Post 3328923)
Or coherence.

This too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328925)
I thought it was a guy :confused: I find him/her entertaining. Btw, how do you lot work out someone's sex on this forum?

Me too. Their posting style is that if a male in my opinion.
Some people are obviously very easily entertained.

Anjela 17.07.2021 21:29

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3328925)
I thought it was a guy :confused: I find him/her entertaining. Btw, how do you lot work out someone's sex on this forum? Is there an initiation ceremony where Mods check member's private parts? :p

Easy, you have a quick look at their post history.

"So, I am a woman, grown up, and I find breastfeeding in public gross."

From a thread called Breast Feeding, June 2016, post #126. She also refers to her husband and having a girl child elsewhere.
Afraid I can't work out how to link to a particular post.

nickatbasel 17.07.2021 21:47

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Originally Posted by newtoswitz (Post 3328815)
There is the ignore button - I only see stuff from FairDinkum when people quote it...

Same here. ItĎs a pain, isnĎt it?

Talk to you later 17.07.2021 22:04

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Originally Posted by Anjela (Post 3328931)
Easy, you have a quick look at their post history.

"So, I am a woman, grown up, and I find breastfeeding in public gross."

From a thread called Breast Feeding, June 2016, post #126. She also refers to her husband and having a girl child elsewhere.
Afraid I can't work out how to link to a particular post.

Could be an eunuch pretending to be a woman :D I mean, if I wrote that I am Batman and like drinking bat breast milk, would you believe me? :p

Talk to you later 17.07.2021 22:15

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3328930)
This too.

Some people are obviously very easily entertained.

His/her short posts are ok. If too long then depending on the subject I choose to read or not read.

You guys make out as if you can't move your eyeballs few millimetres to move past his/her posts? Definitely first world problems, just like this thread ;)

marton 17.07.2021 22:59

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328876)
Discussions in mod zone are supposed to remain in mod zone, I have noticed posts from several posters that imply they knowledge of things they should not know about.
I was actually expecting a different yet legitimate answer, much too much on the defensive if you ask me.

Indeed, I was surprised by the defensive response, when people have info that they should not it becomes difficult to remember what is public domain & what is not.

When you write such posts "along with your serial groans it is looking more suspicious than I originally thought." you should not be surprised by a defensive response?

"Discussions in mod zone are supposed to remain in mod zone"
"when people have info that they should not" what do you mean by "people have info that they should not", where do you draw the line?
I fear McCarthyism is raising its ugly head :eek:

Pachyderm 17.07.2021 22:59

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Hurrah! Page 11 coming up!

nickatbasel 17.07.2021 23:16

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3328628)
I have not unbanned a single person, I pretty sure you know that.

Ah. So they just let themselves in on the latch, then?

jacek 17.07.2021 23:21

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Originally Posted by Pachyderm (Post 3328950)
Hurrah! Page 11 coming up!

This thread is like a DOGE coin of cryptocurrencies. It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever but it gets lots of subscribers nonetheless. :D First bulls and now bears are in control of it!

Pachyderm 17.07.2021 23:39

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Originally Posted by jacek (Post 3328955)
This thread is like a DOGE coin of cryptocurrencies. It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever but it gets lots of subscribers nonetheless. :D First bulls and now bears are in control of it!

All this stuff about mods and mod politics has baffled me for more than 10 years. Just a personal view, but for me, a good Internet forum is like a sausage factory. I like the result but Iíd really rather not know what goes on behind the scenes, and how the product is made. Itís quite vulgar and off-putting.

fatmanfilms 17.07.2021 23:41

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Originally Posted by nickatbasel (Post 3328953)
Ah. So they just let themselves in on the latch, then?

I always thought you were intelligent, yet you seem to believe I can overrule the rest of the mod team & administrators.

I will let you think about that a moment, I don’t think I need to say anything else :msnnerd: perhaps you should look at the conspiracies thread, you will be at home

FairDinkum 17.07.2021 23:48

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Originally Posted by komsomolez (Post 3328923)
Or coherence.

My whole life lacks coherence so pls have some compassion ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anjela (Post 3328917)
Fairdinkum's female, the rather aggressive tone is misleading.

It's true Anjela :o


I was having a great laugh reading this stuff about me , it really did sound like some True Crime episode or Unsolved mysteries .. where the voice over is describing that weird female ... a murderer maybe .. "her aggresive tone was misleading,.. she mentioned a husband...somewhere, whenever she wrote it did lack coherence..." ;))

The only thing I didnt get is when are we doing that nudity testing :o

fatmanfilms 17.07.2021 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 3328929)

Btw - I am shocked that the assumed clichťs are only F/M and not the other genders.

Itís eye opening to be honest.

otec 17.07.2021 23:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jacek (Post 3328955)
This thread is like a DOGE coin of cryptocurrencies. It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever but it gets lots of subscribers nonetheless. :D First bulls and now bears are in control of it!

DOGE has a good purpose, short it


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