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So you are the guilty party.
Even mentioning the second world war can get you into trouble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0
I already posted that earlier in this thread.

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Like dogs should not be eaten, but pigs are ok?
or bat soup!
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Old 17.07.2021, 09:59
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Today I have decided to identify myself as a dark skinned German and a Bat. I want a safe zone to be created around my feelings. Any mention of bat soup should be instant perma ban!

I am flouncing for the day.

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Old 17.07.2021, 10:01
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Calm down. You're just a mod in a dying forum, not an agent in the CIA.
It's more active for the time of year, it's not dying because plenty of positive people are able to step to replace the negative people drop out.
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:07
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It's more active for the time of year, it's not dying because plenty of positive people are able to step to replace the negative people drop out.
Or maybe it's not dying because people have become addicted to arguing.
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:19
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I already posted that earlier in this thread.

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It was not intentional plagiarism. I simply failed to read the whole thread before posting and also missed the original (now apparently deleted) post.
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As a site newbie but long time watcher, I'm finding this forum interesting (and useful). Clearly there are a lot of 'old timers' and also clearly there is a huge amount of antipathy, how people are. Look forward to dodging the bullets and make - hopefully - positive contributions.
Also lots of people who hate Swiss being called Swiss
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:25
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What else should fora be for, than interesting debates...You can only save so many expats from their lowly 120k, brown sugar drought, dishwasher detergent chaos and puppy hotel search. And agony aunts. Then what. Memes (yes!), debates, jokes, the usual.

The death of the forum was announced every single time somebody flounced, since like...eons ago. And it is standing. Hotel California could learn from us. The waves of people leaving are seasonal, so are those who want to dictate mods how to "punish", how long for and how fast the mods should react. There is no panic, stuff gets addressed and as well as we can.

I don't think people are addicted to arguing. Maybe the thrill of the internet hasn't worn off yet, anxiousness that people can share, etc. etc. The intensity is no surprise, considering we are in the midst of a pandemics.

We are open to positive ideas of improvement - bitcoins for rep points, or new subforums... EF Tinder (Finkum, I am winking at ya!), etc.
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:29
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You seemed to know how the mod team at EF worked which is something different.

There have been references to leaks in mod zone, I was just dotting the i's & crossing the t's.
"leaks in mod zone"? somebody has been pi##ing in there

Do the mods have to sign nondisclosure agreements? If not, so what?
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:29
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When I first joined the forum I must admit I found Jim’s tone to be quite aggressive. The more I read his posts the more I realised it was rather more an abrasive manner of arguing with people he disagrees with and anyone can be on the receiving end of it. He has his ideas and principles and sticks firmly to them so it would be a great shame if he were to depart.

Contrast this to the style of some of the departed members/moderators, who went out of their way to find people to accuse of “wrong think” which was just bullying under the guise of social activism/moderation; it’s easy because it rewards the bully. The forum is in a far better place today I’m happy to say!!
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:31
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Thank you. I was just having my morning kefir.
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:38
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I did not use the word "all".

It was a thread about German vs. Swiss bureaucracy!

Tom
I‘m 90% sure it did say all, but we will never know (unless FMF is able to see what he deleted, I guess). An apology and a beer if I have misrepresented you.

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When I first joined the forum I must admit I found Jim’s tone to be quite aggressive. The more I read his posts the more I realised it was rather more an abrasive manner of arguing with people he disagrees with and anyone can be on the receiving end of it. He has his ideas and principles and sticks firmly to them so it would be a great shame if he were to depart.

Contrast this to the style of some of the departed members/moderators, who went out of their way to find people to accuse of “wrong think” which was just bullying under the guise of social activism/moderation; it’s easy because it rewards the bully. The forum is in a far better place today I’m happy to say!!
However, he was always convinced that his opinion was fact and he had in my view an aggressive manner which pushed his „facts“. Often they were, but not always.
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Old 17.07.2021, 10:43
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I‘m 90% sure it did say all, but we will never know (unless FMF is able to see what he deleted, I guess). An apology and a beer if I have misrepresented you.


However, he was always convinced that his opinion was fact and he had in my view an aggressive manner which pushed his „facts“. Often they were, but not always.
I can see what was written, as deletes are always 'soft deletes'. The word 'All' was not written. I am sure Tom will forgive you

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He has his ideas and principles and sticks firmly to them so it would be a great shame if he were to depart.
If anyone wants to leave, he just leaves. It's not necessary to start a thread about leaving, so there is a good chance he won't leave. Looks to me more like an attempt to grab some attention by being a drama queen. Which is quite the opposite of leaving.
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I‘m 90% sure it did say all, but we will never know (unless FMF is able to see what he deleted, I guess).
He said: "Germans are Nazis", which is contextually the same as saying "all Germans". He didn't say some, or specify any administrative bureaucracy elements, so you certainly do not owe him a beer.

And yup, mods can also of course generally see soft-deleted posts. so they could confirm exactly what was written.
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Old 17.07.2021, 11:14
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If anyone wants to leave, he just leaves. It's not necessary to start a thread about leaving, so there is a good chance he won't leave. Looks to me more like an attempt to grab some attention by being a drama queen. Which is quite the opposite of leaving.
On the contrary I think it’s quite useful to see what caused people to leave and see whether we can improve things going forward if necessary.
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On the contrary I think it’s quite useful to see what caused people to leave and see whether we can improve things going forward if necessary.
That's easy - stop being so easily offended.
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Old 17.07.2021, 11:17
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A little perspective here.

Meaning of the word Nazi:

1) A member of the National Socialist Worker's Party of Germany. This party was dissolved and banned in 1945. Thus nobody is still maintaining a membership list and there isn't a bank account to pay membership fees into. Hence there are no nazis of this type left.

2) In the modern meaning of the word, anybody who happens to disagree with you. To say Germans are Nazis thus means no more than, I disagree with Germans.

3) Short form for neo-nazi, I guess this is how it was understood in this case.

4) Saying somebody is a nazi may be shorthand for saying they posess certain traits similar to nazis. Which maybe should be enumerated so the statement can be evaluated and understood. For example they like autobahns and Hugo Boss clothes. Ok, maybe that's a bad example.

5) In the original meaning of the word, as this is something not many people know, nazi was a slur for an Austrian. It is short for Ignaz, which was considered to be a typically Austrian name, and was often shortened to Nazi at the time. So if you were called Ignaz your friends might call you Nazi. In Berlin of the 1920s there were standup comedians who told jokes about a Prussian and an Austrian called Nazi in which Nazi was always the dumb one. Then along came Hitler speaking with his Austrian accent and his enemies saw the verbal parallel between "national socialist" and nazi and started calling him that. It was a slur before it somehow became official. So to say Germans are nazis is to say Germans are Austrians which is somewhat questionable factually, but not actually racist.

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If anyone wants to leave, he just leaves. It's not necessary to start a thread about leaving, so there is a good chance he won't leave. Looks to me more like an attempt to grab some attention by being a drama queen. Which is quite the opposite of leaving.
Maybe the only extenuating circumstances would be that it was intended as a Friday thread. Every Friday a brand new thread is gonna be created that someone new will announce her/his/their exit
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He said: "Germans are Nazis", which is contextually the same as saying "all Germans". He didn't say some, or specify any administrative bureaucracy elements, so you certainly do not owe him a beer.
If somebody said "German cars are good", that is not the same as saying "all German cars are good". It says, in general and overall if you ignore the exceptions, German cars are good. Or maybe "German automobile engineering is good", or maybe just "I like German cars"
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