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Old 16.08.2021, 16:25
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Asian Giant Hornets

Hi everyone,

I did a brief search and didn't find a relative topic.
I was just reading an article on asian giant hornets in one of my go-to websites, and then went into a small rabbit hole of scary giant hornets only to realise that if you see a huge one it's definitely the asian type.

Basically I saw the chart below



And then I remembered that not only did I catch a live one that came into my bedroom in Oerlikon a few years back (pic attached - compare its size to the inlet pipe of a Dyson battery powered vacuum) but I saw another one outside our window a week ago.



Didn't get a picture of the latest sighting, thankfully it flied off soon enough after we noticed it.

Has anyone else seen the giant bastards? I'm not super creeped out by bugs, and I don't love them either. I don't mind spiders and bees etc, but this thing sends shivers down my damn spine

I think I found a Geneva cantonal page to report sightings but nothing for Zurich or federal.


Also, HOW DO I GET ANTI AIRCRAFT INSTALLED IN MY APARTMENT

Or at least a mesh so that I can leave the windows in recline
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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

Info on what to do https://www.bienen.ch/aktuelles/deta...lden-1208.html

Basically send a photo by email to info@apiservice.ch

It also states not to do anything until you recieve further instructions.

Hornbach offers several net options.
Here is one that evitates drilling any holes https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Fliegen...2/artikel.html
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Old 16.08.2021, 22:36
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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

Those are varieties in Washington state, NOT here!

We've always had large ones here, and in New England, that are NOT Asian ones.

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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

Based on the colouring patterns the insect on the photo looks much more like a protected European Hornet to me. The size may be frightening, but the look (the colour, the patterns) doesn't match the Asian Hornets that I saw: they are darker and have no crown-like stripes on the back.

Have you had a chance to show it to any entomologist?
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Old 17.08.2021, 09:26
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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

It is a European hornet...the telltale downward-pointing spikes on the black bands of the abdomen. The Asians have smooth bands.
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Old 17.08.2021, 09:48
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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

Thanks for the clarifications and tips guys!
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Hi everyone,

I did a brief search and didn't find a relative topic.
I was just reading an article on asian giant hornets in one of my go-to websites, and then went into a small rabbit hole of scary giant hornets only to realise that if you see a huge one it's definitely the asian type.

Basically I saw the chart below



And then I remembered that not only did I catch a live one that came into my bedroom in Oerlikon a few years back (pic attached - compare its size to the inlet pipe of a Dyson battery powered vacuum) but I saw another one outside our window a week ago.



Didn't get a picture of the latest sighting, thankfully it flied off soon enough after we noticed it.

Has anyone else seen the giant bastards? I'm not super creeped out by bugs, and I don't love them either. I don't mind spiders and bees etc, but this thing sends shivers down my damn spine

I think I found a Geneva cantonal page to report sightings but nothing for Zurich or federal.


Also, HOW DO I GET ANTI AIRCRAFT INSTALLED IN MY APARTMENT

Or at least a mesh so that I can leave the windows in recline
The most amazing thing about this is that you clearly looked at pictures of all of the hornets and were still unable to identify that the one you posted a photo of was the European one and not the Asian one despite the very clear visual differences. I mean seriously, that takes some doing.
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Old 17.08.2021, 10:05
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Those are varieties in Washington state, NOT here!

We've always had large ones here, and in New England, that are NOT Asian ones.

Tom
According to Sigh's link they are here now.

I caught at least two really huge ones this year and let them out the window. Ours are protected - this makes it rather difficult to decide, eih?
Well, when in doubt I guess I'll go for protected.
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The most amazing thing about this is that you clearly looked at pictures of all of the hornets and were still unable to identify that the one you posted a photo of was the European one and not the Asian one despite the very clear visual differences. I mean seriously, that takes some doing.
That might be true, but in my defense every time I googled giant wasp, I got only the asian type and not the european type, so I didn't know that there was a second option. My limited understanding was that the only big ones are the invading pests from the east, hence the post here.

Apparently some people are ok with being helpful and others not so much...
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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

Every day someone pees on someone's cornflakes here.

Hornets are interesting creatures, afraid of them as I am. This time of year we can sit in the garden and hear them munching on the bark of the lilac trees. They find sweet juices underneath. We just have to relocate our chairs...
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Old 17.08.2021, 11:33
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Every day someone pees on someone's cornflakes here.

Hornets are interesting creatures, afraid of them as I am. This time of year we can sit in the garden and hear them munching on the bark of the lilac trees. They find sweet juices underneath. We just have to relocate our chairs...
It's always the same incontinent ones though.

I'm also worried by their sizes but I learnt they are actually easier to catch when lost in my flat, their movements seem less hectic than wasps&Co.
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Old 17.08.2021, 11:40
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It's always the same incontinent ones though.

I'm also worried by their sizes but I learnt they are actually easier to catch when lost in my flat, their movements seem less hectic than wasps&Co.
I never found wasps to be especially difficult to catch.

Or especially aggressive for that matter. As long as you respect certain rules.

Maybe I just live on a different planet or something.
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Every day someone pees on someone's cornflakes here.

Hornets are interesting creatures, afraid of them as I am. This time of year we can sit in the garden and hear them munching on the bark of the lilac trees. They find sweet juices underneath. We just have to relocate our chairs...
These hornets love our lilac too. I didn't know it was the bark that they ate.

I don't mind the hornets but those paper wasps (with the long legs) have a really vicious sting.
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Old 17.08.2021, 11:57
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I never found wasps to be especially difficult to catch.

Or especially aggressive for that matter. As long as you respect certain rules.

Maybe I just live on a different planet or something.
Being highly allergic to wasp stings with 5 tablets to take if they get me, I might have a different view on their behaviour.
Still, at least I stopped panicking when they find their way inside.
And I know it sounds crazy yet it works again and again: I tell them to leave, then guide them by telling them "south" - "west" and they actually fly out the door quiet quickly.
(I tried "left" and "right" first with no succes.)
Does not work with flies, unfortunately.
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Re: Asian Giant Hornets

We discovered a hornet's nest attached to one of the window shutters on the night when we took possession of the house. I discovered it as the shutter was jammed so I opened the window to take a look. Big mistake. It was a window without a screen and a few hornets flew into the room and headed directly to the light in the glass shower enclosure. I ran out shut the door and sent my husband to deal with them.

The painter was starting the next day so we warned him not to open the window. We hired an exterminator and they sent us a video. I have never seen anything quite like it.

We noticed that many insects like to fly into the space where the shutters roll up so even though we don't want to raise the shutters fully in summer we do so once a day and then lower them so if any insects have started a nest we hope to have disturbed it.

Their other favourite spot is on the roof overhang especially on the pergola. We had it freshly painted and along with his supplies I saw the painter had a can of wasp spray.
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Being highly allergic to wasp stings with 5 tablets to take if they get me, I might have a different view on their behaviour.
Still, at least I stopped panicking when they find their way inside.
And I know it sounds crazy yet it works again and again: I tell them to leave, then guide them by telling them "south" - "west" and they actually fly out the door quiet quickly.
(I tried "left" and "right" first with no succes.)
Does not work with flies, unfortunately.
Really? Me too. I always thought I was the only crazy.

I have also discovered that if I approach them slowly and stretch out my fingers to them and then move my fingers in the general direction in which I want them to move they often follow me, sometimes for several meters or more, as long as I don't stop or change direction, which is often enough to get them out through the nearest open window or door.

Maybe they think my fingers are friendly wasps or something.

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Really? Me too. I always thought I was the only crazy.

I have also discovered that if I approach them slowly and stretch out my fingers to them and then move my fingers in the general direction in which I want them to move they often follow me, sometimes for several meters or more, as long as I don't stop or change direction, which is often enough to get them out through the nearest open window or door.

Maybe they think my fingers are friendly wasps or something.
Yeah, well, I shall not try your finger-system as I'm not keen on taking those emergency tablets.
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Really? Me too. I always thought I was the only crazy.
Clearly a case of "dä gschider git noh"
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