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Re: Growing cannabis

man there's a few growshops that even sell clones or so "a friend of mine" claims

anyway, seeds you can order from abroad sites, they are not ilegal as long as you do not germinate them and are only meant as souvenirs

and growing for your own use is only fined... unless they can prove you're growing to sell or growing lots of it.

but anyway there are plenty of growshops out there in switzerland i'd recommend going for an indoor grow for stealth reasons... with balconies you never know... the smell, noisy neighbors, etc... i mean in some cantons the police and neighbors will look the other way, but you never know, whereas with an indoor grow there's hardly any risks at all if its done properly...

anyway i recommend the ethnic growshop in geneva, they have great prices and sell all the equipment you need....

good vibes people!!!

p.d: anyway this is what my buddy john doe who used to live here until a couple of weeks ago claims ... so yea
also you can always ask around here: https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65625
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Thanks for the link...but if you grow a plant you'll get a fee??
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Thanks for the link...but if you grow a plant you'll get a fee??
Dude: the law states you are not allowed to harvest it nor sell it.

The law doesn't tell you what you may do. Take from that what you will.
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Dude: the law states you are not allowed to harvest it nor sell it.

The law doesn't tell you what you may do. Take from that what you will.
Im surprised no one has brought up the new law that is supposed to go into effect on January 1 2012 in Vaud, Neuchatel, Geneva and Fribourg.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...illegally.html
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Im surprised no one has brought up the new law that is supposed to go into effect on January 1 2012 in Vaud, Neuchatel, Geneva and Fribourg.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...illegally.html
I can only hope Canada doesn't come up with something so ridiculous. One set of tenants nearly destroying my rental home with a grow operation was bad enough. I know others who've had to pay tens of thousands of dollars repairing the damage from tenants growing pot.

Edit: I'm not talking about huge grow ops either. In my case, it involved maybe 20 plants although I know others who've been faced with bigger ones. But the mould and related problems that can result are often extremely costly for a homeowner. Making the tenant 'liable' is just talk too. I won in court but am left to chase down the money myself, which hasn't been successful. I just think more thought needs to go into this kind of law and the ramifications when the plants are grown in a rental property (i.e. most people).

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I can only hope Canada doesn't come up with something so ridiculous. One set of tenants nearly destroying my rental home with a grow operation was bad enough. I know others who've had to pay tens of thousands of dollars repairing the damage from tenants growing pot.

Edit: I'm not talking about huge grow ops either. In my case, it involved maybe 20 plants although I know others who've been faced with bigger ones. But the mould and related problems that can result are often extremely costly for a homeowner. Making the tenant 'liable' is just talk too. I won in court but am left to chase down the money myself, which hasn't been successful. I just think more thought needs to go into this kind of law and the ramifications when the plants are grown in a rental property (i.e. most people).
Simply make it legal only with Property owners permission. Also avoid through better tenant selection.
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Simply make it legal only with Property owners permission. Also avoid through better tenant selection.
The property owner's permission might work. But tenant selection can only go so far.

Myself and others I know have done everything from character, employment and rental history checks to credit checks. It still happens. The tenants who did this to me got a great reference for five years spent renting from a property agency.
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I can only hope Canada doesn't come up with something so ridiculous. One set of tenants nearly destroying my rental home with a grow operation was bad enough. I know others who've had to pay tens of thousands of dollars repairing the damage from tenants growing pot.
Well, it's often the case that stupid laws (such as drug prohibition laws) have unwanted and nasty side effects. People would hardly take the effort of secretly growing cannabis indoors if they were allowed to buy it a the drugstore.

Sorry that you became a victim of stupid and irresponsible lawmaking.
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People would hardly take the effort of secretly growing cannabis indoors if they were allowed to buy it a the drugstore.
No? I think it depends, in part, on the price point. Many people grow their own vegetables and fruit not just to avoid pesticides, but to save money.
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The property owner's permission might work. But tenant selection can only go so far.

Myself and others I know have done everything from character, employment and rental history checks to credit checks. It still happens. The tenants who did this to me got a great reference for five years spent renting from a property agency.
I guess if selection process fails, deposit and insurance should cover most of it.
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I guess if selection process fails, deposit and insurance should cover most of it.
I lol here but in a really bitter way. :/ Damage deposit is only equivalent to two weeks of rent (by law in the province you can't get more than that). Most house insurance plans will not cover marijuana damage by tenants - there has been a lot of media attention to this problem, in part, for that reason.

Plus, once you give your tenants notice, they may also just stop paying rent (happened to me) so you're out rent plus damages until you can get a court order to remove them.
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I lol here but in a really bitter way. :/ Damage deposit is only equivalent to two weeks of rent (by law in the province you can't get more than that). Most house insurance plans will not cover marijuana damage by tenants - there has been a lot of media attention to this problem, in part, for that reason.

Plus, once you give your tenants notice, they may also just stop paying rent (happened to me) so you're out rent plus damages until you can get a court order to remove them.
hmm. I take 3 months rent.
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The problem in Canada is the tenant have a lot of rights even more than the owners. Deposits are not a common practice.
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Indeed, in fact, swissinfo are reporting on it today.

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front/d...53871000&ty=st

EDIT: Interestingly, they call it a haluciogen throughout the article.
Hallucinating on cannabis - The Holy Grail ! :∑
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Im surprised no one has brought up the new law that is supposed to go into effect on January 1 2012 in Vaud, Neuchatel, Geneva and Fribourg.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...illegally.html

Is there an age limit? And what about pets ? We treat our cat like a human, I can always make a Kitty watering can
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I can only hope Canada doesn't come up with something so ridiculous. One set of tenants nearly destroying my rental home with a grow operation was bad enough. I know others who've had to pay tens of thousands of dollars repairing the damage from tenants growing pot.

Edit: I'm not talking about huge grow ops either. In my case, it involved maybe 20 plants although I know others who've been faced with bigger ones. But the mould and related problems that can result are often extremely costly for a homeowner. Making the tenant 'liable' is just talk too. I won in court but am left to chase down the money myself, which hasn't been successful. I just think more thought needs to go into this kind of law and the ramifications when the plants are grown in a rental property (i.e. most people).
i fail to see how the law is ridiculous only because your rental property was damaged. I think you miss the point.. If you make it legal to grow it will be in the garden with the other plants and not hidden inside. It is in fact the very solution to your problem! People dont have to hide it inside anymore.. If its legal to grow outside then that should be a term of the lease. As far as insurance, Hell in schweiz you can buy insurance for anything! Make the renters pay for grow op insurance.. Or screen your tenants better... Is it so wrong to know exactly what your tenants are doing with your most valuable investment?..
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i fail to see how the law is ridiculous only because your rental property was damaged. I think you miss the point.. If you make it legal to grow it will be in the garden with the other plants and not hidden inside. It is in fact the very solution to your problem! People dont have to hide it inside anymore.. If its legal to grow outside then that should be a term of the lease. As far as insurance, Hell in schweiz you can buy insurance for anything! Make the renters pay for grow op insurance.. Or screen your tenants better... Is it so wrong to know exactly what your tenants are doing with your most valuable investment?..
The best type of insurance you can ever get is a guarantor, deposits and insurance policies are good but a guarantor agreement is great, it covers everything especially if you make sure they have a healthy bank balance and a property...
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i fail to see how the law is ridiculous only because your rental property was damaged. I think you miss the point.. If you make it legal to grow it will be in the garden with the other plants and not hidden inside. It is in fact the very solution to your problem! People dont have to hide it inside anymore.. If its legal to grow outside then that should be a term of the lease. As far as insurance, Hell in schweiz you can buy insurance for anything! Make the renters pay for grow op insurance.. Or screen your tenants better... Is it so wrong to know exactly what your tenants are doing with your most valuable investment?..
It's not ridiculous only because my rental property was damaged. It's ridiculous because many rental properties are damaged.

I don't know or care what you can buy in Switzerland when it comes to insurance. My comment was that I hope this law doesn't come to Canada and I gave my personal reasons why. As in, what matters to me are the insurance laws there, which don't typically cover this kind of stuff. I imagine, in part, because it's not only a common occurrence but also potentially very costly in terms of damage. And, what happens here can most definitely affect what happens in other countries (and vice versa).

Please suggest to me how to screen tenants better beyond housing, character, employment and credit checks for 5+ years. The point is that you can't always know what your tenants are doing until it's too late. This is the unfortunate story for many property owners. The law is not on their side.

It's also gardening 101. Grow operations being inside aren't solely about hiding them. The humidity/temperature outside isn't usually supportive of a good crop.
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It's not ridiculous only because my rental property was damaged. It's ridiculous because many rental properties are damaged.

I don't know or care what you can buy in Switzerland when it comes to insurance. My comment was that I hope this law doesn't come to Canada and I gave my personal reasons why. As in, what matters to me are the insurance laws there, which don't typically cover this kind of stuff. I imagine, in part, because it's not only a common occurrence but also potentially very costly in terms of damage. And, what happens here can most definitely affect what happens in other countries (and vice versa).

Please suggest to me how to screen tenants better beyond housing, character, employment and credit checks for 5+ years. The point is that you can't always know what your tenants are doing until it's too late. This is the unfortunate story for many property owners. The law is not on their side.

It's also gardening 101. Grow operations being inside aren't solely about hiding them. The humidity/temperature outside isn't usually supportive of a good crop.
I guess it takes one to know one..
I understand the difference between indoor and outdoor but in CH growing outdoor isnt a problem but of course in canada it is. Seeing as how the law only affects CH, it makes most of this irrelevant for now. There are always irresponsible tenants.. And a non grower can still screw up your property as bad just as a responsible grower would do their best to not destroy someone elses home. Just because you grow (legally in this case) doesnt make you a bad tenant. I dont live in these 4 cantons so it doesnt affect me:/
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