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Re: Stolen KABA key

We too have just recently suffered the loss of a key to the house/flat, daughter lost her handbag, together with all train cards, I.D. etc, so any potential miscreant has not only the entry but the address as well.

Major pain in the acre.

On contacting the rental agent ( I have to say how very fortunate we are, he is great, thanks Hr Hostettler!), not only did he not give us grief about it, but was quite prepared to just order a replacement key for us.
As he said, anyone can get into the building if they really want to, what happens after that is pure fate. Locks only keep "honest" people out after all.
His tip was to keep the (presuming you have a spare) key in the locked door, half cocked, so even if they do have your door key, unless they are really serious about it, they won't be able to get in and murder you in your sleep.

I have opted to get our lock changed, purely to put it behind us and that there can be no repercussions at a later date. Complacency is the very devil sometimes and it may not even be ourselves that get "broken" into.

He said that it would be plain ridiculous to replace all the locks in the building, esp as the same thing can happen to any one of the other tenants, these things happen and I think most agencies accept it as such.

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Just a tip regarding having your keys stolen and the thief knowing where you live... If you have a GPS in the car set "Home" to be say your home town and not your precise address. There have been cases of a thief stealing a car with the keys and setting the GPS to "take me home" so they can steal from the house as well.... And you know your way anyway from your home town to home so it's not really necessary to put in your exact address.

Garmin suggests you set the "home" of your GPS somewhere familiar, close by but not actually at your home...

Incidently I have heard of locksmiths in London that will replicate KABA style keys without the card
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Re: Stolen KABA key

Thanks for all the useful info. A related question: We dropped a Kaba key under the dash of the car and can not get it out (still looking into the feasibility of taking apart the car...). We told our landlord, and he wants us to pay to replace all of our locks and new keys, about 900 CHF. Is this standard? If it depends on the situation, is it just up to the landlord to decide? Any insight would be appreciated.
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Thanks for all the useful info. A related question: We dropped a Kaba key under the dash of the car and can not get it out (still looking into the feasibility of taking apart the car...). We told our landlord, and he wants us to pay to replace all of our locks and new keys, about 900 CHF. Is this standard? If it depends on the situation, is it just up to the landlord to decide? Any insight would be appreciated.
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Take the car to a dealer. I am sure someone in their workshop will know how to get the key out.

Since you know where the key is, it isn't lost, right? I can't figure out why you told the landlord just yet, since you know where the key is.
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..., with the secure, ie Star, 20 or Gemini, you need to be the authorised signatory. This means you filled in the registration form and have your name and signatory left with Kaba or you have the little blue card with your name on and can prove who you are.
We have a star kaba with a tag on it with a bunch of digits. We own our apartment. Is this still not enough for us to get a replacement key?

(The key broke in the lock, so we know exactly where it is, but it's not usable. The maintenance company did not answer our email of inquiry.)
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Old 18.11.2010, 11:10
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No it's not enough. You have to have your details and signature registered with Kaba. I own a house, and that's what we had to do. When we ordered a new key, we had to sign for it - then they make the checks, then they cut the key for us. And then they sent us the bill.
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Re: Stolen KABA key

Hi, thanks for your reply. We told the landlord as we are moving out of our house, and he asked. getting the dash taken apart is going to cost about 200 chf, and they are not sure that it will be there... which i had planned on doing, but I asked the question first to get a better understanding of the right of the landlord to charge us for replacing all the locks. I was hoping to get away with replacing the key, but guess it is just one of those things and will have to pay up for a careless mistake! thanks
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Hi, thanks for your reply. We told the landlord as we are moving out of our house, and he asked. getting the dash taken apart is going to cost about 200 chf, and they are not sure that it will be there... which i had planned on doing, but I asked the question first to get a better understanding of the right of the landlord to charge us for replacing all the locks. I was hoping to get away with replacing the key, but guess it is just one of those things and will have to pay up for a careless mistake! thanks
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No it's not enough. You have to have your details and signature registered with Kaba. I own a house, and that's what we had to do. When we ordered a new key, we had to sign for it - then they make the checks, then they cut the key for us. And then they sent us the bill.
how much did it cost?
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