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Old 03.09.2006, 01:42
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

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Friedrich Leibacher (July 21, 1944September 27, 2001) was a Swiss spree killer who killed 14 members of the Zug canton Parliament, injuring 15 others, before committing suicide.
Leibacher had been employed in business, and had several failed marriages to women from the Dominican Republic, one of which produced a daughter. In 1970 he was convicted of fraud, public obscenity and obscene acts with children, and sentenced to 18 months detention. He served his sentence in a work-training institution.
After leaving detention, Leibacher became unemployed. Doctors diagnosed a personality disorder and alcoholism and he received an invalidity pension. In 1998 he was convicted of threatening a bus driver employed by the Zug transport company. Leibacher was upset by his treatment, and wrote frequently to the authorities with letters of complaint. The passage of time did not diminish his grievance as Leibacher began to believe he was the target of a government conspiracy led by Robert Bisig, a Cantonal Minister. He sued Bisig but in September 2001 his actions were dismissed by the court.
At 10:30 AM on September 27, 2001 Leibacher entered the Zug Parliament disguised as a police officer and armed with a pistol, a pump-action shotgun, and a rifle. He made his way to the Parliament chamber where he fired more than 90 shots randomly. Politicians and journalists alike were hit, although Robert Bisig escaped unscathed. Finally, Leibacher detonated a small home-made bomb, then shot himself. He left behind a suicide note describing his action as a "Day of rage for the Zug mafia".
The man had issues.
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

I wouldn't let that particular issue of yore in Zug influence you. I'll skip recounting the various events of bankers going postal in Zürich. People have problems everywhere. I don't think that it was life in Zug that tipped him over the end (...what're you thinking, guys?)

Zug's a nice town, manageable size. If you don't want the big city life, you'll be happy there. There's enough of a city without being overwhelming.

I'm on the board of the International Men's Club of Zug - there are some 200 members from various countries. The club language is English. Drop me an e-mail, I can get you hooked up.

I didn't read the entire thread (out of time - moving the office to Zug (!) on Tuesday) - are you in Zug already? when are you moving?

Must dash - furniture to dismantle, papers to pack...
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

Thanks for all the posts in the last few months. I was really looking forward to moving to Zug, but unfortunately circumstances changed and I won't be going now. But thanks anyway.
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

Makes me want to move to ZUG....

Just last night, a visitor from Zug added more fuel to this fire.

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Does anybody know the overall taxes in Zug for a 140K/y salary?
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Old 03.11.2006, 17:03
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

I moved to Zug just over 2 years ago after living in London for 10 years. I missed the energy of London, the bars, clubs and anonymity that a big city provides, it was a struggle to settle in. However, Zug is close to the Alps and is in easy reach of some great ski areas, Zurich is only down the road and Luzern is also close by. If you want to step out of your front door into a trendy bar / club or go shopping late at night then Zug isn't the place for you.
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Hi Raella

The Tax rates depend upon the town in which you live. Of course things like marital status, various deductions (IRA-like pension plan, insurances, etc.) all make a difference as well.

Here's an online tax calculator which might be of help (though you'll need to speak a little German...).
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...yes, London to Zug is truly an unfortunate comparison.

Zug is a small town, but a lot of people like it that way. You can walk to all of the relevant areas, the public transportation's good, it's (relatively) quiet, traffic's manageable. There's no M25... you know. But there's no night-life to compare to London.
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Don't get me wrong, once you adjust to the pace of life etc Zug is an OK place. I live closer to Arth and can nip to Stoos in the winter which is great. I can bike up the Zugerburg for the day but I do miss being able to nip for a beer, for that Zurich comes into it's own.
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Here's an online tax calculator which might be of help (though you'll need to speak a little German...).
where is the
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..calculator?
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...don't tell me I forgot the link: http://www.zug.ch/cgi/tax/np/kantordin.cgi

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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

Try this one also :

http://www.homegate.ch/homegate/fina...&type=RentFlat

you can compare areas and it gives you a + / - figure.
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Darn. After all the nice things you guys wrote about Zug, it makes me want to get a weekend place there for some peace and quiet. Although one can have peace and quiet almost anywhere outside Zurich - as long as one does not live near the airport.
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

Zug is probably a nice, soft "landing spot" for first coming to Switzerland, particularly if you come from a small-town yourself. I have a 5 minute walk to work, same for going to the market. If you get up in the morning with a whim to go hiking or to go to Zurich or Lucerne for the day, it's easy to do.
However, I've been here for my first 7 months in Switzerland and am finding Zug a bit too quiet and hard to get integrated (there is a fun English pub, but everything else is couples-oriented); it seems a great place for families with kids, but since I am single I am thinking of a move to Zurich.
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

why not think of it like the Bat cave, somewhere calm and secure, from which you can venture forth into Zurich (a tame cul-de-sac compared with London imho) or Basle (are you serious, midweek Birmigham has more action!!), or Berne - now there lives (at least one) beautiful and interesting woman who works for the governement and has spent interesting dinnerhours and -seriouslyearlybreakfastcoffeeatthehoteloverlooking therivermoments with me over past years....and isn't there a casino and some bears there as well?

I am to be based in Zug shortly, and I do not intend to be bored....
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I guess it's different strokes for different folks but I have to tell you that this is a 'singles' desert. If you're single avoid it at all costs, specially if you travel.

I travel about 2-3 days per week, takes 5 or so hours to get home flying back from where the business has taken me. I get to Zurich Station & the thoughts that go through my mind are; "shall I leave my bags in a locker and go have fun or do I need a shower first?" That means getting back to Zug, getting home, having the shower & thinking; "it's too late to go back now". Result - never getting out much except to the couples oriented places so I am looking ofr another job that gets me out of this place.
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Re: Moving to Zug - good idea?

Hi Forum

I am considering a move to Zug to join a large international trading company.

Is there somebody out there who give some guidelines to typical salaries / packages?
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Here we go: 124632.23/year 13th month salary 17.6% end year bonus.

This is what I was earning when I was a mussel-shellfood buyer specialising in eastern europe..

Hope this helps.
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I am considering a move to Zug to join a large international trading company.

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Tks Dave
So total package would be what, exactly?
Is that good enough to get by with a family of four?
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