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Old 07.10.2010, 14:51
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I had to learn to stop staring when I moved to the US
It is fun though! You stare at them. They stare at you. What's wrong with that?
But now, in Europe, I am uncomfortable. I probably took to many (obligatory) harassment prevention classes. A big no no in the US corporate workplace. You can only stare at your shoes.
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Meanwhile the middle and upper classes just shoot people, right? Never mind the Green mile, or Tyler Durden etc etc

Anyway, I think it is my god given right, that, after a fair warning, if you offend me, I get to have a duel with you. I have some pride, not to let every nugget in life walk all over me verbally or physically, and some excellence in ducking and counterpunching. It worked for every class in the past, when everyone knew how to defend themselves, or was a mite more cautious about what they said and did for fear it may offend someone who might decide to do something about it. And in certain places, such as Cannock for example, a sign of aggressive behaviour such as staring or a verbal insult usually premeditates a fight, and some people would rather get their blows in first than wait to be picked on. Its a cultural thing.

It's a free world, at least in some places, but if you abuse that freedom, and think it gives you the right to say and do as you please, well, I for one think you deserve to have a lesson or two doled out to you.

Personally, I got in the habit of handing people passport photos of myself when I felt they were staring rather too much. I mean, its a cultural thing I know, but still, when you've made it pretty obvious you're not enjoying it, and they carry on, well, they can have a f*&%ing picture to stare at at their own leisure.
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Funny thing is, that we had a very well known person visit us the other month and they made the remark that it was amazing that "No one stared at them" - as usually everywhere else they go -it's the opposite
He could've been "big in Japan", but not in Swiss
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Old 07.10.2010, 15:18
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Uhm, I can't write seriously anything after LucP avatar distracting me, jeezumpetes...

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I get a lot of stares (but not cause i look like Brad Pitt), so i do the 1-2 look... if i happen to find someone staring at me, i look away, and then look back at them 2 seconds later to see whether they are still staring, with a knowing "caught-you-staring" look on my face. They usually look away at that point.
That works very well, and adding a raised eybrow, just a tad, with the second stare.

Guys stare and usually just smile when caught, some girls, though, have quite expressionless look on their faces, it is rather bizarre. Or look like bored princesses.

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I think you should all be celebrating the fact that staring is rife in Switzerland as it's symptomatic of a safe society.
Or a socity that has a different understanding of personal space, or lack there of. I think people dislike being stared at, since in some cultures it means an invite. If I ignore someone on public transport, I give them a feeling of not being observed, watched under a microscope, it's a curtesy thing. I think that's why yanks love sunglasses, since it shields them, but also the others from feeling like their little space has been invaded.

People stare at home, but usually you get a friendly nod afterwards, chuckle or chitchat, not icecold look or a nudge since they also walk into you.
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Uhm, I can't write seriously anything after LucP avatar distracting me, jeezumpetes...
sorry 'bout that... look! it has been graciously removed... but, not by me
I liked that avatar... anyways, back on topic: what am I staring at?!
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Re: The sport of staring.....

So there have been jokes about taking pictures on this thread... but does it actually happen?

Because some guy definitely took a picture of me on the train this morning. Took his phone out, directed it at me, and *click* it went. Perhaps my knitting on the train needed to be documented in his world? Dunno...

I took my phone out and took a picture of him right back. Then glared until he looked away.
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Old 08.10.2010, 14:30
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Re: The sport of staring.....

I get this stare a lot


actually i just wanted to repost it as the original one gotz deleted...
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Old 08.10.2010, 14:53
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Anyway, I think it is my god given right, that, after a fair warning, if you offend me, I get to have a duel with you. I have some pride, not to let every nugget in life walk all over me verbally or physically, and some excellence in ducking and counterpunching.
i agree, but fist fights are so barbaric. i would at least offer you the choice of rapiers or duelling pistols.
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i agree, but fist fights are so barbaric. i would at least offer you the choice of rapiers or duelling pistols.
Oh, I don't know. There's a sweet art to it that can be rather aesthetically pleasing, don't you think? Prizefighting and bareknuckle boxing was pretty aewsome back in the day, and boxing can be entertaining at times.

Admittedly, when you get gangs of five or ten people jumping on your head after attacking you from behind in the street, rather less so, but this isn't what I would a duel.

When I lived in Liverpool, people you pissed off would offer you a straightener outside. This meant a one-on-one until one of you went down and decided to call it a day. Whereupon typically he'd get picked up and bought a pint by the victor. No one else would get involved, no one pulled any weapons out, no one put the boot in. An altercation you could walk away from, no paramedics on the scene. Very civilised. And knives and guns usually result in fatalities, which is going a bit far I think over something so trivial as a big mouth. Personally, I think if people were willing to put up with a bit more physical voilence, like a black eye, bloody nose or fat lip, we wouldn't have so many fatal stabbings or shootings in the world.

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Uhm, I can't write seriously anything after LucP avatar distracting me, jeezumpetes.... Or look like bored princesses.
I don't remember the avator, but bored princesses - that is a great description of your average female swiss expression on the train.

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Because some guy definitely took a picture of me on the train this morning. Took his phone out, directed it at me, and *click* it went. Perhaps my knitting on the train needed to be documented in his world? Dunno....
Um, this is going to sound a bit sexist, but I assume you are female? Anyway, I think it's ace that you knit. And if I had witnessed a complete stranger take a picture of you I would have took his camera off him, possibly more. Not a very nice thing to do
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Re: The sport of staring.....

too bad it's not in German, so these morons could get it...
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Re: The sport of staring.....

Well I spent a long time in India. They are the world champions at staring!
After a while you don't notice it. I guess some people are too sensitive when it comes to staring. Anyhow I never really thought the Swiss stare-if anything its the opposite.
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I get this stare a lot


actually i just wanted to repost it as the original one gotz deleted...
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I don't remember the avator, but bored princesses - that is a great description of your average female swiss expression on the train.
It's true, innit? But then, if you don't look like this, you do get a warm feedback, radiating people get a lot of smiles back..

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Um, this is going to sound a bit sexist, but I assume you are female? Anyway, I think it's ace that you knit. And if I had witnessed a complete stranger take a picture of you I would have took his camera off him, possibly more. Not a very nice thing to do
I know guys who knit, always in privacy, though. I knit almost every train ride, people do stare, the thing is - the nice ones usually don't stare on your face, but your hands, to see what you are doing. Having a photo taken and not being asked is bad class..
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Re: The sport of staring.....

Yeah, I am a woman, and I knit in my girly little way. Hey, Christmas is coming faster than you think, and every train ride must be utilized to get the gifts ready.

It's true, most starers look at my hands to make sense of the madness. The photo taking was thankfully an isolated incident.
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Re: The sport of staring.....

hi Spinach,
I am posting you a message here since I am not able to send you a PM through EF yesterday and today( Dunno why!) I wanted tell you our meeting time tonight, at Burkliplatz around 7pm. If you want to PM me your # and then I can text you or call before our meeting.
I hope you get this message today.

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I've been 12y in this country, taking on a weekly basis trains and public transport and never actually noticed this staring thing.
Could it be an anglo-saxon specificity ?
Hmm, could have saved myself a fortune in new clothes if I'd searched for this thread sooner. The Swiss in Basel DEFINITELY STARE - a lot, all ages and genders, and it makes me very uncomfortable. But then I am prone to paranoia, and English, so it seems it's my problem, and although it's reassuring to find out through here that it's nothing to do with the way I look (I hope, I'll have to keep telling myself that every day), I really wish they wouldn't, it makes me feel like more of a stranger here than I already do.
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Hmm, could have saved myself a fortune in new clothes if I'd searched for this thread sooner. The Swiss in Basel DEFINITELY STARE - a lot, all ages and genders, and it makes me very uncomfortable. But then I am prone to paranoia, and English, so it seems it's my problem, and although it's reassuring to find out through here that it's nothing to do with the way I look (I hope, I'll have to keep telling myself that every day), I really wish they wouldn't, it makes me feel like more of a stranger here than I already do.
You apparently were not the younger brother of a boy known for 10 kms around as the one to whom you better were nice if health-conscious, and some 10'000s of folks knew you at age 10 and were quite relieved when you did not show any signs to wish to beat a contemporary to pulp
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I've been having chemotherapy -it's ok, i am cool with it, have a good prognosis, not anywhere near circling the drain.

But, as a consequence I'm fairly bald, and I usually wear a hat. Mostly knitted caps.

I don't know if it's worse here than other places, but holy crap do people stare. I was in the coop on Saturday and the person at the checkout was staring at me open-mouthed. It was just weird. I almost whipped my hat off. it's happened a few times... Not the sneaky stare but the open mouth full on thing

I guess I am a curiosity, people are trying to figure out if i am bald, or some kind of nut. I don't think they are admiring my hats.

We do stare at the unusual. But it is weird to be on the receiving end.
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I've been having chemotherapy -it's ok, i am cool with it, have a good prognosis, not anywhere near circling the drain.

But, as a consequence I'm fairly bald, and I usually wear a hat. Mostly knitted caps.

I don't know if it's worse here than other places, but holy crap do people stare. I was in the coop on Saturday and the person at the checkout was staring at me open-mouthed. It was just weird. I almost whipped my hat off. it's happened a few times... Not the sneaky stare but the open mouth full on thing

I guess I am a curiosity, people are trying to figure out if i am bald, or some kind of nut. I don't think they are admiring my hats.

We do stare at the unusual. But it is weird to be on the receiving end.
I know it must be tough and I have no idea how much it can be. But I know one thing: You are a freaking strong woman!!!

You should turn this around! Imagine her face if you did take your hat off!

Some people needs to be put back to their place when acting like a 4-5 years old who stare at people because they don't know public manners....YET. Kids have all the excuses.... not adults.
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I've been having chemotherapy -it's ok, i am cool with it, have a good prognosis, not anywhere near circling the drain.

But, as a consequence I'm fairly bald, and I usually wear a hat. Mostly knitted caps.

I don't know if it's worse here than other places, but holy crap do people stare. I was in the coop on Saturday and the person at the checkout was staring at me open-mouthed. It was just weird. I almost whipped my hat off. it's happened a few times... Not the sneaky stare but the open mouth full on thing

I guess I am a curiosity, people are trying to figure out if i am bald, or some kind of nut. I don't think they are admiring my hats.

We do stare at the unusual. But it is weird to be on the receiving end.
What to say ? The only advice I can give and DO give is, just RELAX ! You are now in prominence, so take it ! I hope you caps are colourful and cheery !? No ? Then do something about it ! My brother and me had the same sort of cancer but while my surgery was totally successful and no further treatment was needed, my older brother had the whole program including chemo-therapy. So that I know your predicament. Amazing however was that the hair of my older brother AFTER the whole thing was better than ever before. And when he finally died (not of cancer but of indirect results and his non-taking-advice) a neighbour of my mother expressed her condolences for the death of my "younger brother" !
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Re: The sport of staring.....

didnt they say - in the article - brain freezes.... not the most flatering adjective for the Swissies...
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