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Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

Hi,
We brought our Charmglow Grill from America to Switzerland and now have been told that due to differences in gas pressure, we cannot use it here. Before we get rid of what seems to be a now worthless grill, we would to hear a second opinion if the gas pressure being different is indeed true. And to make matters worse, we didn't bring the gas canister b/c I was paranoid about it blowing up in the container (even empty- ).
Any advice?
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

I wouldn't have thought there was a difference to be honest but I will look into it
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

Yes, the systems are different.

Before tossing it, see if there is a Swiss distributor of your brand. You can then order a new burner and a new hose with CH attachment. Might be cheaper than buying a whole new BBQ.

You might be able to find something similar in the Koenig line. Made in Canada for the CH market and sold under the Koenig brand.

http://www.koenigworld.com/applicati...2573EE003D051A

It seems that Migros might sell your brand of BBQ.

One suggestion is to email the US company and see who distributes it here and what would be the equivalent model name/number.

http://bbq.about.com/od/gasgrillrevi...apr030705a.htm

http://www.nexgrill.net/company.htm
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

i think you have been given bad advice.

what is different here is the hose connections. Which means you need a connector that allows the Swiss or European gas cylinders to be safely hooked up to your grill.
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

I would like to re-ask this question, more specifically:

We brought a Weber gas grill from the US. It's a Q series. Can anyone share experience with purchasing the right parts (where, how much) to make it work here? And where can I purchase gas? Sufficient support might be worth an invitation to a grill party!
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

gas you get at any gas station. there is certainly a converter. just look up weber switzerland http://www.weber.com/home

these guys know for sure a bit more also http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invb...hp?showforum=7
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gas you get at any gas station. there is certainly a converter. just look up weber switzerland http://www.weber.com/home

these guys know for sure a bit more also http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invb...hp?showforum=7
In the UK there were 2 types of gas originally Town gas & Natural gas, when natural gas came along (1970) the burners had to be changed.

My brother recently bought a large BBQ that was plumbed into natural gas, the BBQ did not get very hot as it was designed for bottled gas, the burners were changed & it's fine now.
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In the UK there were 2 types of gas originally Town gas & Natural gas, when natural gas came along (1970) the burners had to be changed.

My brother recently bought a large BBQ that was plumbed into natural gas, the BBQ did not get very hot as it was designed for bottled gas, the burners were changed & it's fine now.
That could very well be the gas pressure issue the OP mentions above. Plumbed gas (like for your kitchen stove) has lower pressure than the gas from the bottles.

The other issue is the connectors which are different different for different regions, like electric plugs.
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

http://www.englishforum.ch/sale-want...ml#post1299742

Maybe this could work for you?
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

The bottle pressure is irrelevant, as it passes through a regulator which controls the final pressure.

So, what pressure is your regulator? It is attached to the grill, not the bottle. (well, it could be attached to the bottle, but it is not part of the bottle, it's part of the hose normally.)

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That could very well be the gas pressure issue the OP mentions above. Plumbed gas (like for your kitchen stove) has lower pressure than the gas from the bottles.
It's probably due to the difference between natural gas and propane, moreso than the regulated pressure.

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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

there was a similar question from a US couple with a US BBQ - they changed the regulator. there was alink with the supplier etc, i have not looked for it but i know there have been similar questios in the past.
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It's probably due to the difference between natural gas and propane, moreso than the regulated pressure.

Tom
There are are grills that attach to the plumbed gas. So, it makes a difference if the plumbed pressure is too low. I don't know what the "differences in gas pressure" issue that was told to the OP.

Anyway, I wouldn't think that the grill is useless. But clearly the grill needs to be adapted somehow.
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There are are grills that attach to the plumbed gas. So, it makes a difference if the plumbed pressure is too low.
Ummm, no.

Plumbed gas is different than bottled gas, and that is why they use different pressure.

"Grills operating on propane operate at a higher gas pressure than those on natural gas."

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Old 22.08.2011, 16:13
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Ummm, no.

Plumbed gas is different than bottled gas, and that is why they use different pressure.

"Grills operating on propane operate at a higher gas pressure than those on natural gas."

Tom
Bizarre.

Ummm, I never said the two gases were the same.
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I would like to re-ask this question, more specifically:

We brought a Weber gas grill from the US. It's a Q series. Can anyone share experience with purchasing the right parts (where, how much) to make it work here? And where can I purchase gas? Sufficient support might be worth an invitation to a grill party!
Go to Pangas to get what you need to run your Weber Q in Switzerland. They are a huge distributor of Weber products and really, really knowledgeable. http://www.pangas.ch/international/w...alias/homepage I have no idea about the price, but I do know that a new Weber Q will run you at least 600 francs all in, so if you can convert it for under 200, it's worth it.

P.S. Pangas (as the name implies!) also sells gas.

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Bizarre.

Ummm, I never said the two gases were the same.
No, but you said "it makes a difference if the plumbed pressure is too low".

This is wrong.

It makes a difference if the pressure is too low (or high) for the type of gas being used.

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No, but you said "it makes a difference if the plumbed pressure is too low".

This is wrong.

It makes a difference if the pressure is too low (or high) for the type of gas being used.

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You said that pressure doesn't matter because you can adjust it with a regulator. You use a regulator to regulate down but not up. So if the pressure from plumbed gas is too low for your purposes you can not (in a practical manner) raise it.

And it DOES matter if the pressure is to low. Your device may not get hot enough. I use propane because the house gas will never have enough pressure for what I need.

Now we have no clue why someone told the OP the grill couldn't be used because of "differences in pressure". I would guess the grill is not useless but there are some mods that need to be done. Was this grill designed for house gas or tanked gas?
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Re: Does an American Grill work in Switzerland?

OP,

It has been stated before, but obviously you will need to change your regulator.

It will help if you find out the specifics with pressure from America, to know how to convert it here.

If the gas is the same, then the pressure is irrelevant, you just need to manage how to deliver it from the new source to the device.
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You said that pressure doesn't matter because you can adjust it with a regulator. You use a regulator to regulate down but not up. So if the pressure from plumbed gas is too low for your purposes you can not (in a practical manner) raise it.

And it DOES matter if the pressure is to low. Your device may not get hot enough. I use propane because the house gas will never have enough pressure for what I need.

Now we have no clue why someone told the OP the grill couldn't be used because of "differences in pressure". I would guess the grill is not useless but there are some mods that need to be done. Was this grill designed for house gas or tanked gas?
The problem with the house gas is not the pressure, but rather that you need 2.44 times the flow for the same energy content, and thus different burners!

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