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Telephone Spam from India?

Every day, I receive about 10 to 20 calls from numbers such as +919491715859, +919959278615 and +919866114862 on my fax machine, usually a few times from the same number. It's not fax spam, so I assume it's voice spam … it's annoying nevertheless since my fax machine has no option to turn the ring tone off.

Do you have any idea why I receive fax spam from India and what I can do against it?

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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

+919xxxxxxxxxxxx indicates it is a call from an Indian mobile. For them to reach you would be quite expensive - to them.
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+919xxxxxxxxxxxx indicates it is a call from an Indian mobile. For them to reach you would be quite expensive - to them.
Obviously not expensive enough …

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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

Sent them a ( free ) TXT to cease ?? Google Translate offers Hindi as well

Some but not complete info:

Came across this table below to identify the home state (Indian) to which a a BSNL (Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd) cellphone belong to. For example, if the cell phone number is 9447100100, its first 4 digits are 9447, which belong to Kerala state as per the lookup table given below

Andaman & Nicobar Islands (A&N) 9479, 9432
Andhra Pradesh (AP) 9473 , 9440, 9441
Assam 9478
Bihar 9475, 9431
Chennai 9470, 9444
Kolkata 9481
Gujrat 9457,9426
Haryana 9450, 9416
Himachal Pradesh (HP) 9451,9418
Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) 9452,9419
Karnataka 9471, 9448
Kerala 9472, 9447
Madhya Pradesh (MP) 9458,9425
Maharastra 9456, 9422
North East (NE) states 9477
Orissa 9476, 9437
Punjab 9453, 9417
Rajasthan 9459, 9414
Tamil Nadu (TN) 9480, 9443
Utter Pradesh (UP) East 9455, 9415
Utter Pradesh (UP) West 9454, 9412
West Bengal (WB) 9474, 9434
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

I would recommend complaining to your telephone company
many companies have this option of blocking some numbers

Or you could SMS the number and ask him to stop ...
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

weird but indeed very annoying, I am thinking though that maybe they are just trying to dial another number and have it wrong? Id send them an sms
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

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Sent them a ( free ) TXT to cease ?? Google Translate offers Hindi as well

Some but not complete info:

Came across this table below to identify the home state (Indian) to which a a BSNL (Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd) cellphone belong to. For example, if the cell phone number is 9447100100, its first 4 digits are 9447, which belong to Kerala state as per the lookup table given below

Andaman & Nicobar Islands (A&N) 9479, 9432
Andhra Pradesh (AP) 9473 , 9440, 9441
Assam 9478
Bihar 9475, 9431
Chennai 9470, 9444
Kolkata 9481
Gujrat 9457,9426
Haryana 9450, 9416
Himachal Pradesh (HP) 9451,9418
Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) 9452,9419
Karnataka 9471, 9448
Kerala 9472, 9447
Madhya Pradesh (MP) 9458,9425
Maharastra 9456, 9422
North East (NE) states 9477
Orissa 9476, 9437
Punjab 9453, 9417
Rajasthan 9459, 9414
Tamil Nadu (TN) 9480, 9443
Utter Pradesh (UP) East 9455, 9415
Utter Pradesh (UP) West 9454, 9412
West Bengal (WB) 9474, 9434
What about the other 4 or 5 cell companies?
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What about the other 4 or 5 cell companies?
I can research it later but did say it is not a complete list
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

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I can research it later but did say it is not a complete list
I would neither call nor SMS them. That makes them get a hold of the number that you want them to know even less, namely the one you answer when it rings. It's the same as asking an e-mail spammer to stop sending you unsolicited e-mail.
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

Hi, I heard about telephone scams in Iceland. Don't really remember where these guys were calling from, but the plot is they call once or twice and hang up, and if the telephone owner calls back, they get charged x amount of their phone bill
One woman answered managed to answer the phone and said the spoke frence, witch she could speak a little, but after that the phone just wouldn't stop... she got hundreds of phone calls per day
So be careful with that...
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Came across this table below to identify the home state (Indian) to which a a BSNL (Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd) cellphone belong to. For example, if the cell phone number is 9447100100, its first 4 digits are 9447, which belong to Kerala state as per the lookup table given below

excellent work... but it doesn't help stop the spam much. does it??

to the OP... its not all that expensive to call a CH fixed line from a cell in India. however. a real spammer would hear a fax tone and give up.

have you tried calling back? maybe someone just has the wrong number??
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

DON'T call back!
I found this news again, they were calling from Africa in these cases that were on the news (Tunis & Sierra Leone).
The ones who called back got very big amount taken from their phonebill, and one lady got up to 300 phonecalls per day!
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... its not all that expensive to call a CH fixed line from a cell in India. however. a real spammer would hear a fax tone and give up.

have you tried calling back? maybe someone just has the wrong number??
If it is an organized spam, then a computer is doing the dialing. Apparently not programmed to recognize a fax response.
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If you as a customer have a problem with a telecommunications service provider (such as cablecom, Orange, Swisscom or sunrise) that you cannot solve, we will try to find a fair solution.

We try to help in cases of complaints about telephone services regarding landline or mobile-phone communication, internet services or other data services.

We look at complaints about telephone bills, infringement of data protection, value-added services, unsolicited advertising telephone calls, mails or SMS, unsolicited MMS of an illicit content, deactivation of telephone connexions, or unsatisfactory customer service by the telecommunications service providers.
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The earlier information that was provided can help you articulate a better and comprehensive complaint to your landline fax provider as well as to the Telecom Ombudsman ( Ombudscom ) and / or BAKOM.
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

really?
Sorry to be sceptical, but I have heard a lot of these stories(a.k.a rumours) where outrageous bills are charged...
AFAIK there should be only normal (or in this case) international charges. the premium services numbers have a different number format.

On the other hand being pestered with more calls once a phone number is found to be valid appears a lot more plausible but again I fail to understand the benefit a scamster would get out of it,

If you are actually worried about this being a hoax I am sure there are many free SMS sites e.g. http://www.smsseva.com/ (got that from google SMS India) from which you could safely send an SMS to the troubling number
I would advise be generic in your abusive message to the caller without divulging your number..just a message from Zurich would be enough.
A scamster will not know which number because the odds are very high they are targetting multiple numbers. On the other hand a genuine person will probably understand the context and hopefully correct his error.

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I found this news again, they were calling from Africa in these cases that were on the news (Tunis & Sierra Leone).
The ones who called back got very big amount taken from their phonebill, and one lady got up to 300 phonecalls per day!
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

IF by any chances the faxes do come out good to your landline, chances are they are using SPIT ( Spam over Internet Telephony on T.38 ) masquerading the sending number as an Indian mobile number(s). Costs for International Mobile Data from India to CH is significant. A fax machine ( or fax modem on a PC ) from the sender can easily be manipulated to change its number to jut about any number as well ( CSID / TSID ).

In any case, the provider at your end has to be notified in order to commence investigations, possibly in conjunction with the purported network provider of the sender(s).
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

I've been getting voice spam on my landline from Global Telelinks for the past 6 months, offering me cheap phone calls to India. After a while I stopped getting bothered and whenever they call I just hang up. The phone calls have reduced considerably now.

My advice to anyone affected by them is to just hang up and have patience.
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Cold Calling/Nuisance Calls

I suddenly seem to be getting lots of cold calls. The number comes up as not registered and then the caller wants me to answer lots of questions or buy something. I have an asterix next to my name in the phonebook, but they seem to ignore this -does anyone have any other ideas of how to stop them?
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Re: Telephone Spam from India?

stopping phone spam is easy, take the call, talk to the person then say you quickly have to turn the oven off etc and leave them hanging on the line, time how long it takes them to hang up.

Even better if you have a surround sound system is to start talking then put the phone next to the voice speaker (normally the single 5th speaker) I have an indian traing to sell me a new mobile phone, talking to the guys on american chopper for a good 15 minutes, never got another call again
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Telephone SPAM ( and SCAMs )

Hi everyone,

about two days ago we started to get strange telephone calls from a Russian phone umber: 007495001234.
A recorded voice speaking English with a light Russian accent was saying the following sentece:
"Can you hear me...? May I speak to Mike, Mike Hutchinson?"

A quick googling showed that this recorded message is annoying people from all over the world. It is not clear what is the purpose of these weird calls, but nevertheless be aware of it. I am planing to call cablecom and ask them to block this number, and on worst case, I'll have to change my land line number.
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