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Old 08.04.2010, 20:14
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Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

Hello Everyone,

I was very upset to find out that Foto Factory near Stadelhofen in Zurich has shut down! Their prices were pretty reasonable, between 5 - 8 CHF, and they were quick and very nice. And you got the negs back in a nice blue box, which shouldn't make a difference but looked cool. I will miss them!

Does anyone know of anywhere else to get 120 film developed? I'm a pretty crappy photographer, so I'm not looking for professional standards, just a reasonable service and price.

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Old 09.04.2010, 10:51
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

Wow, didn't realise anyone shot film these days (even 120!).

All kidding aside, places that develop 120 film are fewer and farther between, and a lot of the business is now mail-order. Yes, it's slower, but the shops tend to specialise now so at least the quality is good. Do a google search on '120 film processing' and you should find plenty of places.

Are you processing colour or B&W? If you're shooting B&W, processing yourself is a snap, even if you don't have a darkroom. 120 is much less fiddly to process yourself than 220 (don't have to fuss with the paper at both ends, and it's less curly).

Alternatively, if you've got a spare CHF15'000 lying around, you could pick yourself up one of these:

http://www.dalephotographic.co.uk/ma...nline/_3034214

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Old 09.04.2010, 10:55
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

I agree with Village Idiot (sort of fun to type that) if you're shooting B&W I'd just start processing it on your own. it's quite easy.

if not maybe this is a sign to go digital?
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

Thanks guys!

I know it seems a bit weird, I do have a nice digital camera, bought for work not play, but I like the suspense of film and the weird effects (and often terrible photos). I use a Diana F+, so if anyone else is interested in film photography, let me know.

I would like to be brave and start processing my own film, I guess it's just laziness that stops me! But I will soon.

I also have a load of colour film (bought a big cheap batch on eBay) to get through. It seems like a postal service is the best way to go, I just would miss the wander down the road, talking to the assistant in my terrible German, etc...

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Oh, and when I find 15,000 down the back of the sofa, that's definitely the first thing I'd be buying.
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Old 09.04.2010, 17:11
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

Not familiar with the Diana F+, but just looked it up online and looks like a fun challenge. Have toyed with the idea of picking up an old Leica viewfinder camera for the same sort of challenge.

Bought one of these instead for a similar vintage feel to the pictures (although taken with a DSLR) -- it's been a fun challenge.
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

Wow, those are fabulous! I have nothing that good

The Diana is pretty hard to use, a few light leaks and serious over/under-exposures! I think the Leica would be much better, or you can get USSR Leica rip-offs pretty cheaply too.

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Hello Everyone,

I was very upset to find out that Foto Factory near Stadelhofen in Zurich has shut down! Their prices were pretty reasonable, between 5 - 8 CHF, and they were quick and very nice. And you got the negs back in a nice blue box, which shouldn't make a difference but looked cool. I will miss them!

Does anyone know of anywhere else to get 120 film developed? I'm a pretty crappy photographer, so I'm not looking for professional standards, just a reasonable service and price.

Cheers!
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

With the 'rough' quality that your camera gives, I think some Tri-X would be the perfect match -- just the right amount of grain, but still nice and contrasty. And you can develop it in your bathtub.

Go on, give it a go!
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Thanks for the tips!

And I'll give it a go! Would be pretty cool to show off my hand-developed pics -- make me look like a real photographer!
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

Studio 13 used to be the place for films, http://www.studio13.ch
Perhaps they changed the business in favour of bits and bytes. The place that still sells and deals with dark room equipment, analog cameras, photo papers, films, etc. is Foto Ernst at Badenerstrasse, close to Lochergut. Ernst's house looks like the most decrepit in Zürich, but the shop and its owner are a treasure trove.
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Hello Everyone,

I was very upset to find out that Foto Factory near Stadelhofen in Zurich has shut down! Their prices were pretty reasonable, between 5 - 8 CHF, and they were quick and very nice. And you got the negs back in a nice blue box, which shouldn't make a difference but looked cool. I will miss them!

Does anyone know of anywhere else to get 120 film developed? I'm a pretty crappy photographer, so I'm not looking for professional standards, just a reasonable service and price.

Cheers!
If push comes to shove then for color 120 film you could always cross the border into Germany and use the closest branch of Müller. Developing a roll of slide film uncut and without prints will cost you about 4 Euros. Quality is very good.

Would suggest using a half decent camera, though. Pentacon 6's can be bought quite cheaply. If you are worried about not taking good photos on 120 film then use the WLF of the Pentacon 6. If what you see in the finder looks good enough to hang on the wall then press the shutter button. If not then don't. That way you should take a great photo every time.
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

I used Studio13 regularly for 120 and 35mm regularly until 18 months ago. Studio13 have always been leaders with Digital. For film there, I'm very satisfied. 2008 prices for a 120, develop only, were slightly cheaper than cheapest Migros M-budget 35mm with prints. Something like 8chf colour, 12chf b/w. They have a new website and their price list is not online anymore.

When I moved to Zug I changed my film from 120 and 35mm to Kodachrome only, until Kodachrome finishes for good later this year, so I don't know current prices.

To the digital only users, get started with a real camera (MF for < 100chf). There is simply no experience like shooting MF with the cheapest pocket folder. You learn to get everything right with one shot, you don't see the result for 24 hours to a month, etc. It is amazing how easy it is with digital to shoot 100 useless shots, yet with a folder get 10 out of 12 keepers!

Don't throw away your digital unless you want, but you are missing something by not learning to shoot real film.

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Perhaps they changed the business in favour of bits and bytes. The place that still sells and deals with dark room equipment, analog cameras, photo papers, films, etc. is Foto Ernst at Badenerstrasse, close to Lochergut. Ernst's house looks like the most decrepit in Zürich, but the shop and its owner are a treasure trove.
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

i am thinking of getting a second hand MF camera from the US. Will I have to pay silly taxes if I get it posted here, or is that only for new things?
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You'd be better off with an old Pentacon 6 TL and standard 80mm lens. They can be picked up quite cheaply on German ebay. You get a few on Swiss ebay but often the camera is in Germany. You will have to pay taxes but it won't be much. The quality of this combination of camera and lens is good. You have to make sure the film is on the spool tightly before you close the back and wind on. It's one of the things you have to be careful of with that camera.

Here is an example of one on German ebay. It has the MC (multicoated) lens which is better.
http://cgi.ebay.de/PENTACON-SIX-TL-Z...ht_3470wt_1167
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Re: Foto Factory closed down: Where now?

The Pentacon Six is seriously beautiful, high end communist GDR kit, much bigger and better than it looks in the photo, bigger than a DSLR. Not exactly travel friendly like a folder or the Diana. I bought one with the 50mm Zeiss lens as I wanted a wider angle lens than my folding Agfa. Mine came from ebay Germany, and I had it delivered to a friend in Berlin. Other purchases I have had to pay customs on. Swiss customs often open, so it is more transparent if there is ebay paperwork inside.

Plastic low end 120 Agfa's (highly recommended) start from 1 to 15 euro. Sometimes boxed like new ones don't sell, even for 5 euro. [Try telling Swiss customs that they should be happy with 50 rap duty, without paperwork] Agfa folders start from about 20 to 50 Euro.

Colour film these days has advanced no end since the 1980s, and gives great results even if you get the exposures a lot off, often giving nicer colours than digital, so best avoided if you want a proper 70s real photo look!

There is a lot to be said for buying old film off ebay. I get flower power looking pictures from my Kodachrome slides. My film is almost 20 years old now, cost 85 cents a roll off ebay, and Kodak still honour the free processing, and free return postage. It must cost them a packet. They have to ship the film from Switzerland to the US, to the last operational Kodachrome developing plant, and back to me in CH, all for free!
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Blast you, blast you all. I stopped by this thread to try to offer some helpful advice. Next thing I know, I'm browsing eBay for a new Pentacon Six to add to my camera collection.

Determined to have autometering (I'm lazy), next thing I know I'm looking at a nice Pentax 645 on eBay, with 55mm, 75mm, and 150mm lens as well as a flash for $700. And pretty close to pulling the trigger.

Why, why couldn't you have left me in peace? I've nearly satisfied my 'lens lust' over the past few years, and you have to go re-open my love affair with medium format.

(You know how this ends, right? Next thing you know I'll be building a darkroom down in the basement, since I can't find anyplace locally to process my 120 film!)

I'm going to lie down in a quiet room for a while, and hope this feeling passes.
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I know the feeling, Village Idiot. I'm a student, so these things are all just a bit beyond my budget. But, if you can afford it, go for it! I like encouraging people into ridiculous, fun purchases! The Pentacon Six looks beautiful and probably better value for money than some of the really over-priced vintage cameras pushed by the Lomography club.

That's an amazing deal on the Kodachrome film! Do they process them into slides or will they cross-process into prints? Either way, good work on finding such a bargain!
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I have a whole cupboard full of 'ridiculous, fun purchases'. My camera bodies and glass are probably worth more than my car.

Seriously.
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But how much pleasure does a car bring? And how much opening a package containing a new camera?

You know you're worth it.
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