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Noise level in Switzerland

Hi, I am a mother of two young boys aged 2.5 and 8 months. My family just recently moved here in Zurich. I like to check what are the strict rules that I need to abide to while living here?

My neighbour, living a floor below us, complained that we were making too much noise. She claimed that the whole of the floors below us could hear the noise and was unbearable. (I check with another neighbour living two floors down, but she had not heard any noise). We know that we are not allowed to run our washing machine and dryer after 10pm, so we do not do that. Our landlord came to check and advise us to lower the volume. It seems that we could also not let the water running after 10pm in the bathroom. It is really difficult for me as by the time I have put the kids to bed and do all the necessary packing up, I need to use the bathroom for washing my face, brush my teeth, ....etc.

The landlord is nice and she also feels bad as she has to convey the message. She asked if we could also help to calm the kids, as the footsteps of the kids also causing the disturbance to the neighbours. My kids are young, and they love to laugh loudly, run or crawl about. All these kids' playing and running about happens before 10pm. They are off to bed between 8.30pm - 9.30pm.

I feel bad, but kids are just kids, how could we stop them from having fun? I like to know if anyone has a similar encounter as my family.

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Re: Noise level in Switzerland

This is a frequent topic here:

One neighbour complains about our noise

finally, it happened (noise complaint)

noise complaints, again

Neighbour issues

received a complaint about noise - any tips how to handle it?

There are more threads out there, but a decent sample from a search.
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Re: Noise level in Switzerland

Still don't understand why one is not allowed to shower after 10pm? By the time I finish taking my kids to bed, and tidy up the house, I just need to shower and relax. Really sad.
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Re: Noise level in Switzerland

Why not "protect" yourself by keeping a simple daily diary of when you put the kids to bed, time shower taken etc. Date and time it. Should something escalate in future you can then use as a reference. Some people are just over sensitive and once they see kids just "hear" noise for the sake of it.

With a diary you can they show the "pattern" that you stick too. If you have a reasonable pattern expected of any one with a young family then that will be valuable. Make it hand written and legible, afterall you can't recorrect handwritten as with a pc.

Just an idea which might help when talking with the landlord etc.

Good luck and you're doing nothing wrong if you and the family are a normal, reasonable family and don't let the natives try and get to you.

Next time you see the neighbour offer to do something for them that will really freak them out - enjoy
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Re: Noise level in Switzerland

The links given by Evilshell are worth a read, but if you don't want to edify yourself, try google up Nachtruhe and you might find out about noise levels after 10pm, and how it is enforced / enforceable at different levels.
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Hi, I am a mother of two young boys aged 2.5 and 8 months. My family just recently moved here in Zurich. I like to check what are the strict rules that I need to abide to while living here?

My neighbour, living a floor below us, complained that we were making too much noise. She claimed that the whole of the floors below us could hear the noise and was unbearable. (I check with another neighbour living two floors down, but she had not heard any noise). We know that we are not allowed to run our washing machine and dryer after 10pm, so we do not do that. Our landlord came to check and advise us to lower the volume. It seems that we could also not let the water running after 10pm in the bathroom. It is really difficult for me as by the time I have put the kids to bed and do all the necessary packing up, I need to use the bathroom for washing my face, brush my teeth, ....etc.

The landlord is nice and she also feels bad as she has to convey the message. She asked if we could also help to calm the kids, as the footsteps of the kids also causing the disturbance to the neighbours. My kids are young, and they love to laugh loudly, run or crawl about. All these kids' playing and running about happens before 10pm. They are off to bed between 8.30pm - 9.30pm.

I feel bad, but kids are just kids, how could we stop them from having fun? I like to know if anyone has a similar encounter as my family.

Singorchid
Hi fellow Singaporean, the links provided by evilshell are worth a read.

Whilst most Singaporeans have experienced communal living in the HDBs and private apartments, it is nothing like the Swiss way of life. In most buildings, the 10pm rule is strictly enforced.

There are similar incidents by members on here who have had run in with neighbours due to their children. They have received loads of valuable advice on how to deal with it and a great dose of humour. Again, read the links.

With regards to the no showering after 10pm rule, I am afraid you will have to readjust your living habits or get everything done before 10pm. There is no need to try and understand that, just do it. I thought Mr He-who-must-not-be-named, his son and the Holy Goh, trained us well on this
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