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for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

The title kind of says it all, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ? What kind of 'feel' does Ottawa have compared to Zurich ? If you had to choose, which one would you take and why ?

May receive a job offer in Ottawa and am doing some preliminary research....
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The title kind of says it all, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ? What kind of 'feel' does Ottawa have compared to Zurich ? If you had to choose, which one would you take and why ?

May receive a job offer in Ottawa and am doing some preliminary research....

I lived in Ottawa for 4 years. It's a lovely city and if you like the outdoors, it's a great place to live. Unlike Zürich it is very cold in the winter with lots of snow. A large percentage of the population work for the federal government.
Ottawa's population is under 1 million but to me it never it never had that big city feeling.
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Both are 6 letters long.

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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

only one ex-ottawatanian here ?
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Ottawa is more quiet in most ways. Great access to outdoors. Very highly educated population, split between lazy govt artsies and hi-tech sector. High % of population is young and from elsewhere so very dynamic.

Outside of the core 300K, it is very suburban, so similar to canton Zurich, but the suburbs won't be nice like Rapperswil etc. It's 50/50 Anlgo-Francophone.

Easy access to Montreal, one of the great cities of the world.

Obviously more easy-going than Zurich.
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Old 02.06.2010, 13:00
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Yeah, damn cold during their short winters (short compared to the Prairies). But also hot and humid summers.

Skating along the Rideau Canal to work is nice though. And great for cycling in the summer.
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The title kind of says it all, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ? What kind of 'feel' does Ottawa have compared to Zurich ? If you had to choose, which one would you take and why ?

May receive a job offer in Ottawa and am doing some preliminary research....
Ex Zuercher here .Hot Summers cold winter .leave the stg57 at home.but we have a rifle club.Bring skate and fishing rod.Lots of dutch people here
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Yeah, damn cold during their short winters (short compared to the Prairies). But also hot and humid summers.

Skating along the Rideau Canal to work is nice though. And great for cycling in the summer.
How cold is 'damn cold' ? Are winters longer than in zuri ? I mean it's Canada but its also more south than Zuri (same height above equator as Milano...)
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Disclaimer: I am Canadian and have only ever visited Ottawa. I lived on Lake Ontario until moving to Switzerland/Zurich.

Ottawa is one of my favourite Canadian cities because of the vast amounts of park land. Regarding access to the outdoors, Ottawa is great in comparison to other Canadian cities, but doesn't have much on Zurich.

Zurich is on average ~8 C warmer in January and ~3 C cooler in July. It rains a bit more in Zurich during the summer and suffers from a lot of "high fog" in the winter so Ottawa also gets more sun(25% more).

The part I like about Zurich is that it never gets extremely humid in the summer or extremely cold in the winter. It could be a bit sunnier but it's a good trade.
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How cold is 'damn cold' ? Are winters longer than in zuri ? I mean it's Canada but its also more south than Zuri (same height above equator as Milano...)
Will go below -20 regularly. And very windy. Ice on streets. A real winter. This would last from late Dec to mid March. So 4 months.

Re summer, it will go above 30 regularly with 100% humidity making it feel like 35+ (air con suggested).

Latitude is not the only influence in weather patterns.
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Old 02.06.2010, 13:58
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Ottawa is great in comparison to other Canadian cities, but doesn't have much on Zurich.
It doens't have mountains nearby, true. But when it comes to lakes, forests, hills, rivers, ...., it does very well. Better than Zurich since there are is pesky civilisation in the way. It's all empty.
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How cold is 'damn cold' ? Are winters longer than in zuri ? I mean it's Canada but its also more south than Zuri (same height above equator as Milano...)
LOL...Sorry, this seems funny to me. Temperature often has nothing to do with latitude. However, to answer your question, "damn cold" in this case means just that! It's colder in Ottawa in January than it is in Moscow. It frequently goes below -30 Celcius and when you add in the wind chill (it really can blow there sometimes), it will seem much colder. Winters seem to go on forever! I can't remember when the first snowfall would be, but you can count on it being fairly cold from November until March (meaning temperatures will often have lows below zero), with this also common in October and April. If you move there, you will learn to REALLY appreciate the spring.

It's a great city, but because of the earlier mentioned fact that most people work for the government, it seems to be shut down after work hours, which I guess is similar to Switzerland, although, the Byward Market area stays open later and has lots of stuff to do (bars and restaurants mainly). Also, because it's where so many politicians are, there are often government funded festivals going on as tourism is very important to the area. Skating on the canal is amazing. You can skate for something like 8km in one direction.
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Zürich's main advantage is that Hull isn't just over the bridge!
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

"Zürich's main advantage is that Hull isn't just over the bridge!"

I would rate that as an advantage, as the night spots in Hull are open much later that in Ottawa and usually much more fun. Still I should note that my experience of Ottawa is getting dated now, as it is nearly 20 years when it was my weekend stomping ground.

Ottawa is a government, civil service city so there is a sense of entitlement there. But there is also a subsidized civic cultural life ( festival fairs, museums etc) that makes it, now that I think of it, the most swiss like of Canadian cities.
People have been all over the weather, but other differences are the public transit system won't be as good, real estate will be cheaper and there will be much, much more variety in restaurants dining out etc. And Montreal, which still swings way above its weight class for culture, is still close by car.

Skating on the canal is kind fun too, as long as you know how to prevent cold injuries.
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as long as you know how to prevent cold injuries.
What are cold injuries ?
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Skating on the canal is amazing. You can skate for something like 8km in one direction.
Winter is cold but skating is a great way to keep warm. The canal is frozen in the winter and you can skate for what seems like forever.
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What are cold injuries ?
Shattered penises.

BTW, as a Dutchie you can enjoy the Tulip Festival in spring; thanks sent from your Queen every year.

As for Hull, it has the best strip club in the world. Enough said.
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As for Hull, it has the best strip club in the world. Enough said.
Please stick to correct EF protocol; the wording should be "I have it on good authority from a friend that Hull has the best strip club in the world".

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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Cold Injuries are frost bite and front nip, both of which can afflict you in -30C weather on a 14km skate.

I actually can't skate very well so the canal was great, 7 km without turning or stopping, hit a snowbank, stand up and face the other direction and go back 7 km without having to turn or stop.

As far as the other cultural attractions to Hull, I'll leave that to the more worldly forum members
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Re: for the resident Canadians, how do Ottawa and Zurich compare ?

Ottawa, any day. Its just a great place. (and I love Swizerland)
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