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Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

Hello everyone!
I a Mechianical engineering student in Romania and next year,after I finish my studies and get my Bachelor's degree, I would like to follow a mechanical engineering master's program in ETH Zurich. I would like to know (if someone from the ETHZ was in a similar situation or knows something about this topic) could help me by answering a few questions;I would like to add that I am a good student (second of 150 students,with a avrage grade of 9.5 with 1 beeing the lowest grade and 10 beeing the highest, from the faculty of Mechanics in one of best if not best technical universities in Romania,I have done some research projects like "3D modelling and Finit Element Analysis ,of a Dacia 1310 combustion head for ,mechanical solicitations","Impact Test using FEM","Air flow analysis for Coaches, Trucks and methods for obtaining a better aerodynamics"(Final Paper...a still ongoing project),"Designing and building of a electro-mobil propulsed by 6 BOSCH drilling machines",etc...).So here we go:

1. What are the chances of beeing accepted at ETHZ?
2. What are the chances of obtaining a financial aid(scholarship)?
3. Are there mechanical engineering master programs tought in english?
I also speak an OK german but it would be difficult to learn the scientific subjects in german.
4. What's the avarage cost of accomodation for a studio flat in Zurich?
5. How are international students seen/treated by the swees?
6. Are there posibilities of studying for a P.hd in mechanical engineering after finishing the master degree?
Thank you for reading my post and I would be gratefull if you helped me.
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Old 30.07.2010, 22:18
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

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Thank you for your I will look it up. If anyone has some experience in these matters please post looking foreward to reading your posts
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

Hi,

I can help you regarding chances of being accepted to ETHZ ... let me tell you that they have extremely strict requisites for admitting students. I applied for a mechanical engineering masters in January but got rejected on a couple of counts.

There are three basic sections required for being accepted:

(1)The first is outlined in this pdf:
https://www.mavt.ethz.ch/education/m...Profile_ME.pdf

Unless your curriculum covers these exact subjects (or almost exact subjects) your application is rejected

(2)Subjects studied in bachelor corresponding to ETHZ's area of specialisation selected in your application (this list is not made public)

(3)Subjects studied in bachelor corresponding to your selected tutor's area of specialisation (this list is not made public)

If the subjects you've studied in your bachelors vary less than 30 credits from the above requirements, you are admitted under probation and you have to study an extra semester and take bachelor's courses from ETHZ to make up this difference.

If the subjects you've studied in your bachelors differ by more than 30 credits, your application is rejected.

Having good grades does not cancel out any of the above requirements... and i'm speaking from experience. I got rejected as I had 45 credits difference; and graduating with first class honours in engineering couldn't counter that.

What I did after getting rejected was to apply at EPFL... which is the other swiss federal institute of technology but in Lausanne. Much less strict with their entry requirements, and I was admitted easily with no probation period whatsoever. The course is in french, but all exams, class notes, projects and so on are available in english.

Give it a go with ETHZ, you'll never know for sure until you try, I just wanted to give you a better overview of the process and an alternative within Switzerland in case you need one. Good luck!
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

I have studied all those subjects that are posted in the link but for example I have studied only 1 subject in Analysis not 3 and it had 6 credits not 23. So does that mean I need to take a supplimentary course for the rest of the credits in Analysis?
This goes the other way with other subjects like material science and engineering of fluid dynamics because I have a lot o credits in these subjects not only 3 or 6 like it is posted in that link.
Thank you for your answer.
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Is it mandatory to have taken the GRE General Test in order to be admitted to ETHZ.
P.S. I am from Romania.
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

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I have studied all those subjects that are posted in the link but for example I have studied only 1 subject in Analysis not 3 and it had 6 credits not 23. So does that mean I need to take a supplimentary course for the rest of the credits in Analysis?
This goes the other way with other subjects like material science and engineering of fluid dynamics because I have a lot o credits in these subjects not only 3 or 6 like it is posted in that link.
having extra fluid dynamics subjects does not make up for having less subjects in analysis ... did you really only have 6 credits for analysis? that is much too little for an engineering degree! maybe in your university what is called "analysis" in ethz is named differently?

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Is it mandatory to have taken the GRE General Test in order to be admitted to ETHZ.
P.S. I am from Romania.
When I called ETHZ to ask last year, I was told that EU countries don't need to do the GRE test. But in my opinion you should do it, as it might improve your chances to get in.

Do you know anyone from your university in Romania who goes to ETHZ mechanical engineering deparment? If they've already admitted students from your university and your grades are good enough you'll probably get in.

Oh, and make sure you write a great cover letter with your application ... Written well, that can make a world of difference!
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

4. Flats are very expensive in Switzerland. Expect to pay at least 1'100.-/M for a studio flat. Much better to join a flatshare, range between 350-700.-/M also a good opportunity to make friends and meet locals
5. No problems there, people will first ask you where you're from and then what you do.
ETH enjoys a good reputation, but girls will think you're a nerd. (which you might just as well be) :-)
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If you don't get in don't worry to much apparently the ETH rejected Einstein, twice, and he did quite well for himself.
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1. What are the chances of beeing accepted at ETHZ?
2. What are the chances of obtaining a financial aid(scholarship)?
3. Are there mechanical engineering master programs tought in english?
I also speak an OK german but it would be difficult to learn the scientific subjects in german.
4. What's the avarage cost of accomodation for a studio flat in Zurich?
5. How are international students seen/treated by the swees?
6. Are there posibilities of studying for a P.hd in mechanical engineering after finishing the master degree?
Thank you for reading my post and I would be gratefull if you helped me.
Nice. 6 questions, none of which are to do with permits or government .
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

Thank you all for posting. tiflamaltija where can I find a good example of a Cover Letter?
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

literally all of those questions are extremely clearly answered on the website for ETH, which is also almost completely available in English... http://www.ethz.ch/index_EN

Nu face romanii sa arate prosti, poate ca ti-ai raspuns singur la prima ta intrebare.
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If you don't get in don't worry to much apparently the ETH rejected Einstein, twice, and he did quite well for himself.
Damn it!!!

Blatant lies. He failed the admissions test in the social section, but was granted admission on recommendation of the dean of physics due to his extremely high score in mathematics and physics.
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Thank you all for posting. tiflamaltija where can I find a good example of a Cover Letter?
well, it's dependant on you and what you'd like to specialise in ... just describe what you've studied so far and any interesting projects you've taken part in and link it with what you intend to study at ETH and describe a bit how you'd like your future career to be... You can check google for examples
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Re: Chances of beeing accepted to ETH Zurich

Fridge, I have read all the requirements posted on the site. I was just wanted to find some info about the admission process from someone with some experience,someone who went through this. I am not so certain that having met the requirements I'll be accepted by the ETHZ thats why I want to know what competitors will I face(therefor the first question).
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Fridge, I have read all the requirements posted on the site. I was just wanted to find some info about the admission process from someone with some experience,someone who went through this. I am not so certain that having met the requirements I'll be accepted by the ETHZ thats why I want to know what competitors will I face(therefor the first question).

1. Depends on who/how many you're up against. Nobody but ETH can answer that, and if you ask them outside of admissions times, they should be happy to give you an answer for pre-requisites (I don't know for sure, but that's what I did with HSG). Aside from that, I believe the ETH uses a mentor type system, so you'll have to get one of the 30 professors to agree to take you on.
2. as an international, 0% in your first semester, and up to 25% after that once you've proved hardship and that you've exhausted all other sources... so, not easy. then there are the other programs that have already been mentioned. Keep in mind that as you won't have a permanent permit, you will be ineligible for most funding programs.
3. Extremely likely. English is usually the only language requirement for graduate programs.
4. according to ETH, CHF 634/month.
5. you'll be in the city, in a very international area - and as I'm sure you know, the sciences tend to be very international... who cares what the farmers think?
6. yes

Short of No. 5, and maybe 1, these were all found within a two minute maximum search of the ETH site.

I'm sorry, but if you want to attend one of the most highly regarded tech institutions and have them pay for it while you're at it, you've really got to step up your game.
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