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Old 06.12.2010, 07:26
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

Thank you for a lot of your replies as i'm looking for more information as the Swiss consulate in Toronto has been very vague in the information they have given me as they have only told me that "you may apply". So i'm kind of skeptical on my chances of actually obtaining citizenship. And by the way i'm not Daboy, but congratulations to him too for having a Swiss grandmother!

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So i'm kind of skeptical on my chances of actually obtaining citizenship.
No reason to be skeptical. It seems like it will be relatively straightforward, especially as you said you have close family in St. Gallen. I am assuming you are in contact with them and have visited, which will more than satisfy the close-contact requirement.

Swiss law is very clear. The summary on the website mud gave is up-to-date and completely in line with current Swiss law. If you would like to look up the law on your own, these are the relevant ones (in German but available in French and Italian)
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/c141_0.html
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/dam/...-rs-bueg-d.pdf

The whole process will probably cost somewhere between 300 – 600 Swiss francs, as stipulated in the Ordinance on Fees: http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/141_21/index.html.

And, if you don’t apply by 32, you have another chance at reinstatement by moving here. After living here for three years, you can apply for a reinstatement, “Wiedereinbürgerung”.

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I'm not sure but I'd assume jus sanguinis is probably not articulated in any Swiss laws and more akin to a peremtory norm of continental european...ism.

It is hardly a peremptory norm, but simply codified law. In France and Italy they have a mixed system, which will be reflected in their respective codes. As you are a lawyer, I am sure you can easily find the relevant sections in the Swiss Civil Code.
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

..you can have mine, I'll trade you for the Canadian one. If that's not a feasible option for ya, you can check with the consulate in Toronto.
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

Dear Lost_inbroad,

If the Canadian government does indeed allow us to trade citizenships then you'll have to add the following three items to make the deal even 1# One 18k gold Rolex Presidential watch (it can be used - i'm not picky) 2# One pound of your finest Swiss cheese and 3# One Martin Hingis autographed tennis racquet please!

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Dear Lost_inbroad,

If the Canadian government does indeed allow us to trade citizenships then you'll have to add the following three items to make the deal even 1# One 18k gold Rolex Presidential watch (it can be used - i'm not picky) 2# One pound of your finest Swiss cheese and 3# One Martin Hingis autographed tennis racquet please!

All the best,
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You can have both of my Certina watches (the automatic is brand new) in exchange for a Citizen, I'll raise you 2 pound of the finest Swiss cheese for some Timbits and a double-double...and an autographed Stephon Marbury card...how does that sound?
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

I agree with Ziger. There are no ifs as to your eligibility. But go do it now so you have your application done by the age of 32.

Ziger, can you give me the link to the article PDF you posted above in French? I'm not sure I have the same article as the German version seems to have much more explanation of the law than the French version. Either that or they are not the same article. Thanks.
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

I wonder if i can get my Swiss Citizenship also.. as i was conceived in Switzerland ( thanks to my parents for that way to much info)

On topic : a friend of ours got his Swiss citizenship as his grandfather was Swiss..he is now my age ( 28) so it is possible, ill email him and ask how he got his paperwork sorted.
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Hello
I recently applied for my swiss passport from the Montreal office and had very little trouble actually none at all. I do know that my parents registered me at birth but we have done nothing since then and i was able to get me passport without any issues.
My Paternal grandparents are from Switzerland. I suggest you go to the nearest consul and ask them what is necessary. But as miniMia said don`t go to Switzerland as that wouldn't be your "Consul". I know that the Montreal consul was written on my documentation as the "group' to which i belong.
Hopefully this helps.
Maybe you're the guy I met there... didn't speak much french and was there on Oct. 13 or so?
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No reason to be skeptical. It seems like it will be relatively straightforward, especially as you said you have close family in St. Gallen. I am assuming you are in contact with them and have visited, which will more than satisfy the close-contact requirement.

Swiss law is very clear. The summary on the website mud gave is up-to-date and completely in line with current Swiss law. If you would like to look up the law on your own, these are the relevant ones (in German but available in French and Italian)
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/c141_0.html
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/dam/...-rs-bueg-d.pdf

The whole process will probably cost somewhere between 300 – 600 Swiss francs, as stipulated in the Ordinance on Fees: http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/141_21/index.html.

And, if you don’t apply by 32, you have another chance at reinstatement by moving here. After living here for three years, you can apply for a reinstatement, “Wiedereinbürgerung”.


It is hardly a peremptory norm, but simply codified law. In France and Italy they have a mixed system, which will be reflected in their respective codes. As you are a lawyer, I am sure you can easily find the relevant sections in the Swiss Civil Code.
Looks like I was wrong,sorry
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

To the OP: This thread was helpful to me — it's what actually got me started in the facilitated naturalisation process. Some useful details. Hope it helps!
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Re: I need advice on Citizenship through Ancestry

I was just looking into trying for my Swiss Citizenship. My mother was born and raised in Bern/Lucerne until she emigrated to the US in the 50's. She married my American father and I was born in the USA. I am now 51 and my mother passed away almost 2 years ago. I remember her talking about me about how I should get my Citizenship when I was 18, but then nothing was ever done. I really would love to spend quality time in Switzerland and with my Swiss relatives. I have grow up going to Switzerland and have been a few times over the last 10-12 years (but only 2 or maybe 3x in the last 10 years). I do not have a job that I could get a work visa. It will be a year or so before I could actually make the move over (dad has stage 4 panreatic cancer - he is on month 4 and doing well, but we have no idea how long he has).
I have a feeling I am WAY past the deadline and I know the Swiss like their rules.
I just really need to find a way to get there and live and experience my family history.
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