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Changing Jobs with B Permit

Hi All

I have a B permit valid until Oct 31st 2011 and currently in Basel. I have got a new job offer in Aargau with a new employer. I am a non-EU national.

My questions are
- Can i work with the same B permit?
- Do i have to transfer the B permt. I plan to stay in Basel and travel to Widen.

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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

You don't change the B permit - the new company has to get you a B permit. The permit belongs to the company not really you.

More issues as the new job is in a different canton - but it is unlikely that the new company would offer you the job, if they didn't think that they would be able to get the permit for you.
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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

Hi

Thanks for the quick reply.

Can you let me know where i can find the official rules about changing jobs with a B permit. Do they have a website which i can use as a reference?

Actually i got this opportunity through a recruitment consultant and he says it is fine to use the same B permit.

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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

The B permit does not belong to the company.You get a B permit based on the contract but I checked with immigration and you can actually quit your job the very next day you get the permit and the B will still be valid. My wife has a one year contract and we all got for our family a B permit for 5 years...
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The B permit does not belong to the company.You get a B permit based on the contract but I checked with immigration and you can actually quit your job the very next day you get the permit and the B will still be valid. My wife has a one year contract and we all got for our family a B permit for 5 years...
there are different types of B permits. sometimes they are contingent on contract or they are 5-years and interchangeable.

if you are on a B that is fixed to a contract, then the new company has to apply for the permit - because the permit belongs to the old company, not you. there are two levels that have to approve you: national and state. as i understand how it works in bern (obviously, national level) - if you are moving into a similar job, it isn't complicated. it will get relayed back to the kanton.

i will add that i am not an expert on this and just speaking from experience. i think your next steps are: 1. clarify your permit, 2. if it is fixed - have a honest conversation with your new employer about your chances before you quit your job.

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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

Hi

Thanks for the response so far.

I checked my B permit and in the observations section it is mentioned as
Selbst.Erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig befr. 30.11.2011 / Einsatz company name.

Do you know what this means?

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there are different types of B permits. sometimes they are contingent on contract or they are 5-years and interchangeable.
There are indeed but 5 year permits are only available to EU citizens. All others are renewable on an annual basis.

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if you are on a B that is fixed to a contract, then the new company has to apply for the permit - because the permit belongs to the old company, not you.
No, this is not the case. The permit most certainly belongs to the holder (well, the state really but you know what I mean). However, it may be tied to the employer.

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there are two levels that have to approve you: national and state. as i understand how it works in bern (obviously, national level)
You are a bit confused here. Bern is a Kanton - the same process applies there as well. Just because the federation has it's seat of government there makes it in no way special. All new permit applications are referred at the federal level but once you have one everything is then dealt at the kantonal level.
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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

Hi everybody

I decided to post in this thread (not to create the new one), as it looks my question in some ways could have been answered already...i simply could not find. Anyway...

I am not non-EU citizen
arrived in Switzerland in 2007. Had 6 months L then 12 months L.
Then in 2009 I signed "non-limited" contract and obtained 24 months B, which is to my understanding is limited to the employer. I concluded that from the Letter from the "Migrationsamt des Kantons Zurich" which says: ""Ein Stellenwechsel ist nicht möglich.

in the "B-permit" thread I have read (please correct me, if I am wrong), that such a "limited to employer" B permit can be issued for the period of 6 years (in my case might be something like three times by 2 years). is my assumption is correct?

As my 24 months permit is about to expire, my employer submitted new application (we have actually the consultant who does this job together with our HR). For this reason I have to sign amended contract: contract was changed from unlimited to 24 months contract (thus I concluded that if I get another B permit, it will be with big probability again "employer-limited" contract.)

If somebody has experience or knowledge, I would appreciate your views reg. following
1) Do I have sound chances to get new B permit (taking into account it is beginning of the year, and quota should be still available, hopefully I would say yes, but all the fuss over the contract change, "employer-restricted" type of permit makes me a bit suspicious and not very happy)

2) Are these "restricted" B permits are being accounted for the time
required to get C permit "once in the future"? In other words would it be possible to apply for C after "3 times 2 B period", or my "employer-restricted" B should be reverted first into "normal 5 years non-restricted B", and then after another 5 years I may apply for C?

3) Does somebody know who decides on the B permit type (time&employer limited/unlimited). I may assume the chances to get limited B are higher, or may be it is cheaper for employer? Employer may actually be more interested to get "restricted" B to keep from the attempts to find other job? Any ideas on that?

4) If my permit B is not prolonged or I lose my job (abandoned), I am not entitled for the "unemployment support" (nevertheless unemployment money are being deducted from my salary), as my B- is company restricted and I am not EU-citizen.

PS: May be somebody can recommend a consultant who is experienced in all these matters?
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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

Sorry, there is sort of typo in my previous post. I am not EU-citizen.
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Re: Changing Jobs with B Permit

hi, i've been trying to look up info about changing job w a B permit and it's all pretty confusing. i hope that someone could help me make it more clear.

i came to Switzerland last August for a postdoc at the University of Zurich with a 2-year contract that could be extended. i got a B permit that needs to be renewed every year. In June, i quit my job as i got offer a job in a consulting firm (also in Zurich). the new job does not start until October and i am planning on leaving Switzerland during the gap time. my new employer applied for a prolongation of my B-permit but that was turned down by the labor department (i don't know the German name for this). now they have to reapply for a new short-term permit (L-permit). in this case, my questions are:

-do i need to de-register and leave Switzerland until the new permit is approved?

-what are my chances of getting the new permit approved? providing that this time it is an L instead of a B like what i have now.

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Sorry to resurrect this thread but I have a couple of questions. I am changing jobs, my original contract was a permanent one in a big pharmaceutical based in Basel. Now I will start working for a CRO that is based in kanton Vaud but I will do teleworking, my current residence permit says : Aufenhaltsbewilligung gultig fur die ganze Schweiz (residence permit for the whole Switzerland) and then says: Berechtigt zur erwerbstätigkeit (so entitled to employment).
I am a non-EU national married to a EU national, my residence permit says nothing of the original company that hired me...I am guessing I do not have to do anything but inform the authorities that I will be changing jobs right?
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Sorry to resurrect this thread but I have a couple of questions. I am changing jobs, my original contract was a permanent one in a big pharmaceutical based in Basel. Now I will start working for a CRO that is based in kanton Vaud but I will do teleworking, my current residence permit says : Aufenhaltsbewilligung gultig fur die ganze Schweiz (residence permit for the whole Switzerland) and then says: Berechtigt zur erwerbstätigkeit (so entitled to employment).
I am a non-EU national married to a EU national, my residence permit says nothing of the original company that hired me...I am guessing I do not have to do anything but inform the authorities that I will be changing jobs right?
Thanks in advance!
I am in the exact same situation as you, non EU married to EU. Your permit is under the EU quotas and as such you don't have to inform the authorities of anything. I just changed jobs and cantons myself (and will change jobs again but that's another story). Congrats on the new job!
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I am in the exact same situation as you, non EU married to EU. Your permit is under the EU quotas and as such you don't have to inform the authorities of anything. I just changed jobs and cantons myself (and will change jobs again but that's another story). Congrats on the new job!
Thanks Nicole! I really appreciate the information
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Your permit is under the EU quotas ....
No such thing as EU quotas .
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Sorry to resurrect this thread...
Congratulations on the new job Angela!
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Hi

Thanks for the response so far.

I checked my B permit and in the observations section it is mentioned as
Selbst.Erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig befr. 30.11.2011 / Einsatz company name.

Do you know what this means?

regards
tom
hi Tom/Forum,
Is there any update on this thread?
I am an indian national working here for the past few years 2years of L and currently on my 4th year of B.
I too have in my Stellenantritt copy the following under bedingungen
"Gemäss AWA-Verfügung vom 15.08.2011. Bewilligte Verlängerungsdaur von 12 Mt. nach Art 83 abs. 3 VZAE.
Einsatzort: <<Client name>>, Zürich"

Way below ... it adds
"Geht an: <<Name of my employer>>"

In previous Stellenantritts it used to say "Stellenwechsel is grundzatchlitz nicht moglich ... (pardon the typos)" but this line is explicitly missing in my current Stellenantritt.

I currently have a job offer in hand and the new employer put it on hold stating they need to check with the Amt für Wirtschaft und Arbeit to confirm is Stellenwechsel is möglich (possible or not).
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