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ZH Gemeinden residency rules for citizenship

Hi everyone,

I had a few questions regarding the rules for receiving a Swiss passport. My husband (EU citizen) has been here a long time, 3 years short of the 12 year required residency for the CH passport. We recently moved to Canton ZH however (really no choice in that matter) and didn't look into the cantonal or Gemeinden rules for residency prior to citizenship. The Canton of Zurich has only a 2 year residency requirement so that's no problem. We found out however that the Gemeinde we moved to -- Wiedikon/Kreis 3 -- requires 6 years of residency before you can apply for citizenship! That was sort of a shock -- not that he needs citizenship to continue living here but it would be nice to have. So my question is -- does anyone know of a published list that shows you these residency requirements Kreis by Kreis so you can compare them? And do you think that the powers that be in Kreis 3 would ever make an exception to their rules ? Why do some Gemeinden have such long residency requirements?

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Old 02.01.2011, 21:22
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Re: ZH Gemeinden residency rules for citizenship

Relinking a dated but useful thread:

Citizenship (naturalisation) questions

List of all local communes (Gemeinde) in Zurich

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Re: ZH Gemeinden residency rules for citizenship

OK - thanks, I see that the 6 year requirement is for the entire city of Zurich. That is harsh!!!
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Re: ZH Gemeinden residency rules for citizenship

It doesn't apply if you are moving from one ZH Gemeinde into ZH City. Then the max additional years is 3 to reach 12 and meet the Kantonal requirements. However you must have moved from another ZH Gemeinde within the canton and not from another canton/country.
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Look at it as a challenge for foreigner to integrate into their environment. Keep moving, simple measure of integration is missed.

EU passport.....so you miss out on voting and doing civil service. Why care?
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Look at it as a challenge for foreigner to integrate into their environment. Keep moving, simple measure of integration is missed.

EU passport.....so you miss out on voting and doing civil service. Why care?
Because if you are genuinely integrated and paying taxes somewhere you might place quite a lot of value on being able to vote.

Alternatively, maybe in due course moving UK domicile to CH, and not paying inheritance tax. Not that it helps much as you are gone!
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Because if you are genuinely integrated and paying taxes somewhere you might place quite a lot of value on being able to vote.

Alternatively, maybe in due course moving UK domicile to CH, and not paying inheritance tax. Not that it helps much as you are gone!
tax <> integration.
I don't understand the rest of what you've said.
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tax <> integration.
I don't understand the rest of what you've said.
In the UK inheritance tax is 40% and based on "domicile" which is more "sticky" than residence. Same reason a lot of older Germans suddenly want to become Swiss.

Of course paying taxes isn't the same as integration. But since paying tax doesnt give you a vote but I expect to have a say in how my taxes are spent citizenship achieves that. Your question was why bother as an EU when you have most rights of a Swiss.
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Look at it as a challenge for foreigner to integrate into their environment. Keep moving, simple measure of integration is missed.

EU passport.....so you miss out on voting and doing civil service. Why care?
Are you suggesting my retention of my Swiss bank accounts with my retirement will be less suspcious to the tax authorities if I remain non-Swiss when I return home versus if I return as a Swiss citizen with the defence I only have a local account in the country of my citizenship?

Funny, this isn't exactly Mitt Romney's experience......
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Re: ZH Gemeinden residency rules for citizenship

Is there a list with community requirements for naturalization. Once usually can find it on a gemeinde site, but I hope someone already created that list.
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