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Recycling in Switzerland [ultimate goal is a B pemit for a non-EU]??

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i am a non-EU and have been studied in switzerland for 4 years (ya...those hotel schools). Now i am graduated and have back to my home country. I am curious about some recycling activitive in swiss as i am thinking to transfer my father business to swiss.

Here are my questions
1. Do anyone know that....for example, when you have an old laptop/computer/electronic/car want to throw away, what will you do with that? Just put it on the street or send to those recycling company , right? That is what i know, and is it correct?

2. And do you know what to do with an old car? For example, i am sure there are some companies or whatever to takecare your old car, but does anyone really working in those company and know a bit what will the company exact do with those materials and engineer?

For the above two questions, what i want to know is.....what are they going to do with those "trash"? THey keep in back in switzerland or they are shipping them out? Is it possible for me to purchase them and ship them out of switzerland?

Please kindly help me out with this, as i really want to expand my dad business to switzerland or actually geneva as a start ( a country and city where i love it so much)
I want to stay here with my own hand, but as a non- EU (Asian in fact), it is really difficult. I dont want to marry a swiss just for the paper, so...if anyone here can know something about this kind of recycling thing, please kindly let me know. THANKS A LOT.

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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

Hi Joyce

Plenty of reading material if you searched using recycling as the keyword ( alternate with disposal, waste etc. ):

http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=recycling
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Hi,

i am a non-EU and have been studied in switzerland for 4 years (ya...those hotel schools). Now i am graduated and have back to my home country. I am curious about some recycling activitive in swiss as i am thinking to transfer my father business to swiss.

Here are my questions
1. Do anyone know that....for example, when you have an old laptop/computer/electronic/car want to throw away, what will you do with that? Just put it on the street or send to those recycling company , right? That is what i know, and is it correct?

2. And do you know what to do with an old car? For example, i am sure there are some companies or whatever to takecare your old car, but does anyone really working in those company and know a bit what will the company exact do with those materials and engineer?

For the above two questions, what i want to know is.....what are they going to do with those "trash"? THey keep in back in switzerland or they are shipping them out? Is it possible for me to purchase them and ship them out of switzerland?

Please kindly help me out with this, as i really want to expand my dad business to switzerland or actually geneva as a start ( a country and city where i love it so much)
I want to stay here with my own hand, but as a non- EU (Asian in fact), it is really difficult. I dont want to marry a swiss just for the paper, so...if anyone here can know something about this kind of recycling thing, please kindly let me know. THANKS A LOT.

Regards,

Joyce
1) bring that stuff to a recycling place. Electronics are free-of-charge as already paid recycling-wise of purchasing them
2) old cars ? there are many places, taking care of old and now useless cars. As they are private companies and charge you for the disposal you however better contact your usual car-garage who might arrange a free disposal
3) the disposal companies work on those cars, dismantle them and use good spares to make some objects operational again, while selling the useless parts to companies who melt the stuff to be used again.
4) many companies buy old cars and sell them either to Eastern Europe or the Arab World, often in co-operation with the companies described above
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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

Thanks for the answer.
And actually, i am running business like that in my home country, and thinking to bring the company to switzerland. For example take those unless car disposal or computer (whatever things like that), ship it back to my country and recycle.
Do you think it can be possible, because i have no idea about the swiss law of export "trash" like that to asian. please kindly help me if you know anything more. Thanks

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1) bring that stuff to a recycling place. Electronics are free-of-charge as already paid recycling-wise of purchasing them
2) old cars ? there are many places, taking care of old and now useless cars. As they are private companies and charge you for the disposal you however better contact your usual car-garage who might arrange a free disposal
3) the disposal companies work on those cars, dismantle them and use good spares to make some objects operational again, while selling the useless parts to companies who melt the stuff to be used again.
4) many companies buy old cars and sell them either to Eastern Europe or the Arab World, often in co-operation with the companies described above
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Thanks for the answer.
And actually, i am running business like that in my home country, and thinking to bring the company to switzerland. For example take those unless car disposal or computer (whatever things like that), ship it back to my country and recycle.
Do you think it can be possible, because i have no idea about the swiss law of export "trash" like that to asian. please kindly help me if you know anything more. Thanks
There are already companies in place here in Switzerland, working with EU laws, recycling old stuff. You are too late. Maybe you should look at recycling stuff from Asia?
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There are already companies in place here in Switzerland, working with EU laws, recycling old stuff. You are too late. Maybe you should look at recycling stuff from Asia?
ya, i knew that
however, my company will take those stuff back to Asia for recycling.
Anyhow, thanks for all the reply, i think i would directly contact those companies.

But is there anyone know that if i can start up a sole-trader business in switzerland as now i am in hongkong, without any swiss permit anymore.
And if they do require a whatever permit, permit b from language school will it be an option too?Thanks
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And if they do require a whatever permit, permit b from language school will it be an option too?Thanks
They will not grant a B permit to learn the language - discussed elsewhere within the Permits section. Marriage might be a more viable option.

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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

i am sure that i can get a student permit b just simply get into some language school, however with that student permit, i cannot work legally. So that is why i am thinking to do business and study french then a master in the uni of geneva.

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They will not grant a B permit to learn the language - discussed elsewhere within the Permits section. Marriage might be a more viable option.
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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

My understanding is that to learn a language at a school will not result in a B permit, perhaps likely with a University for a degree program.
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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

As i have checked with some language school in geneva and with some of my friends, they can really get a permit b while they are in the language school, just cannot work legally.

If by jrspet understand, what kind of permit you think they can get if it isnt a permit b? or i should move to other forum?lolz...
But as my knowledge, i think permit b for language is sure
anyway......very complicated swiss's law for Asian....

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As i have checked with some language school in geneva and with some of my friends, they can really get a permit b while they are in the language school, just cannot work legally.

If by jrspet understand, what kind of permit you think they can get if it isnt a permit b? or i should move to other forum?lolz...
But as my knowledge, i think permit b for language is sure
anyway......very complicated swiss's law for Asian....
You, your contact in Geneva, and "some" language school in Geneva are wrong. You will not get a student permit except to study at a higher level such as a university degree.

In your situation you can start a Swiss company but must have a Swiss resident director. Once established, that company must apply for a work permit fo you and must go through the normal process. For this particular area of business my guess would be that there is little chance of a permit being granted.

Why not operate the business out of your home country? Seems an import business at home might be easier to operate than an export business in Switzerland.
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ya, i knew that
however, my company will take those stuff back to Asia for recycling.
Anyhow, thanks for all the reply, i think i would directly contact those companies.

But is there anyone know that if i can start up a sole-trader business in switzerland as now i am in hongkong, without any swiss permit anymore.
And if they do require a whatever permit, permit b from language school will it be an option too?Thanks
Permit situation aside, are you sure this is even a viable business plan? Switzerland is landlocked so I think transporting loads of low value/kg 'stuff' to Asia would be quite expensive. Besides, you'd need to employ someone to load it up, and labor costs are also much higher in Switzerland than in most of the neighboring countries.
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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

ya, i think you might be right somehow about the permit is depending on the study level...for this i will check it out again with the univeristy to be confirm.

As i want to start a sole-trader business, i dont consider a third parties in my business yet....meaning...i work for myself.
My dad is currently running in home country, and last time he came to visit me in geneva, he wants me to try to start up one there too....i know it is really difficult....with my level of the french langauge and my useless passport,lol.....
but our life is on our hand, if we want to change it, we have to give a try....right?lolz

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You, your contact in Geneva, and "some" language school in Geneva are wrong. You will not get a student permit except to study at a higher level such as a university degree.

In your situation you can start a Swiss company but must have a Swiss resident director. Once established, that company must apply for a work permit fo you and must go through the normal process. For this particular area of business my guess would be that there is little chance of a permit being granted.

Why not operate the business out of your home country? Seems an import business at home might be easier to operate than an export business in Switzerland.
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Re: Recycling in Switzerland??

what do u think the way around?
import stuff to swiss? currently i am also asking help for getting a place for selling stuff in geneva.....but i guess no matter in which case, i have to registier a company or a name...whatever the swiss law named.....
then it will going back to establishing a business issue......
life is hard,lolz

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Permit situation aside, are you sure this is even a viable business plan? Switzerland is landlocked so I think transporting loads of low value/kg 'stuff' to Asia would be quite expensive. Besides, you'd need to employ someone to load it up, and labor costs are also much higher in Switzerland than in most of the neighboring countries.
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As i want to start a sole-trader business, i dont consider a third parties in my business yet....meaning...i work for myself.
My dad is currently running in home country, and last time he came to visit me in geneva, he wants me to try to start up one there too....i know it is really difficult....
It is not really difficult. It is impossible .
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It is not really difficult. It is impossible .
why do u say so??
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why do u say so??
Because it is impossible unless you are

a) married to a swiss citizen
b) in Switzerland already on an open B permit - even then you need special permission
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Because it is impossible unless you are

a) married to a swiss citizen
b) in Switzerland already on an open B permit - even then you need special permission
so as long as i come back with a valid B permit, then i will be qualify to run a business? Does the government restricted what kind of business we do?
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so as long as i come back with a valid B permit, then i will be qualify to run a business? Does the government restricted what kind of business we do?
You qualify to run a business now but you would need a Swiss resident director. However, if you want come to Switzerland and work for that business you would need to be employed by it and so it would need to sponser you.

If you want to be self employed while holding a valid B permit then you must obtain additional permission and change your B permit from employed to a self employed type.
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If you want to be self employed while holding a valid B permit then you must obtain additional permission and change your B permit from employed to a self employed type.

Sorry but that is not always the case. I guess I'm just super lucky or my (non-EU) husband's company's very famous, or I don't know, but mine says I can change jobs or even work independently. I understand that this is sort of special and there's not that much chance of one getting such a B permit, but it's possible.
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