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How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

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I am currently looking into opportunities in Switzerland but seems to me that for certain nationalities it is almost impossible to get into, what I think we have 2 or 3 types of candidates, 1st grade would be western europeans, 2 grade north americans/australians, and 3rd sort rest of the world including eastern europe.
I been sending my CV for some time already and I am hitting the wall, the only response if I get any, is "No thanks,your qualifications are excellent but..", well I am polish by birth but worked get educated and lived all my adult life in canada and usa, currently in ireland but looking for making a move to the continent. Looks to me it is easier for me to go back to the states and get job there than find something in switzerland. I do not think that my skills are not good enough I do have over 10 years in IT. I heard that certain minorities are not welcome. Maybe someone who has similar background to mine can share experiences.
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Old 27.01.2011, 17:20
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

1) What is your citizenship - Poland or Canada/US?
2) What kind of permit are you on right now in Ireland - permanent or temporary?

Swiss employers have to hire Swiss workers first, it's the law. If they can't hire a Swiss citizen/permanent resident, they have to hire an EU citizen/permanent resident. If they still can't find anyone, they are allowed to look further afield (all non-EU countries are lumped together at this stage) and import some labor. As you can imagine the job market is pretty tough for non-EUs right now.
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

I am citizen of all 3 countries
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

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Cesc!

Then don't worry about origins, it's difficult here for everyone (to get new job).

It's also long usually (4 months easily).

You've got experience, skills, etc... local language would help- (french/german). But it's definitely not impossible without it.

Keep applying and be patient!
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Swiss employers have to hire Swiss workers first, it's the law. If they can't hire a Swiss citizen/permanent resident, they have to hire an EU citizen/permanent resident.
Do you happen to have a source for that ? AFAIK EU-17 citizens are equal to Swiss citizens when it comes to eligibility for employment. There are obvious exceptions for military/security jobs, certain govenrment positions, but apart from that I thought the bilateral agreements put an end to that requirement.

EDIT: Look up Shorrick's sticky post in this forum, dealing with EU citizens. It confirms my statement.
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Cesc!

Then don't worry about origins, it's difficult here for everyone (to get new job).

It's also long usually (4 months easily).

You've got experience, skills, etc... local language would help- (french/german). But it's definitely not impossible without it.

Keep applying and be patient!
Try 8 months, here since May 2010 - moved over from Ireland too..
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

Thanks for all replies, but I think it will be long process to get a job in Switzerland, I been looking for sometime on certain job sites and seems to me there are not that many jobs that I can applay, as a matter of fact very few.
I do database dev SSIS,SSRS,OLAP,MDX.
I am tired being in Ireland and plan to leave within 2 months but seems to me it is impossible task of finding contracting job within such a short period of time.
Also if it is so hard to get a contract which usually last 3-6 months it does not make sense to do contracting if the so hard to get by.
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

Some employers prefer to get people who are already in the country, to save up on administration (applying for their permits) and relocation fees. It also depends if you are contacting a local company or international, there are slight differences in the application process (search CVs, job app. here , etc). A few months of trying is not enough, short contracting stints might be harder to come by than elsewhere in the world. I think, if one gets here, established a company (don't know what is needed for that) then looks for a job, there is higher chance to succeed. Wasn't Google looking last time I checked (not sure if that is within your line of work)? Search the forum, loads of info.
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1) What is your citizenship - Poland or Canada/US?
2) What kind of permit are you on right now in Ireland - permanent or temporary?

Swiss employers have to hire Swiss workers first, it's the law. If they can't hire a Swiss citizen/permanent resident, they have to hire an EU citizen/permanent resident.
Not so. EU citizens have equal employment rights to Swiss nationals.
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Old 13.03.2011, 21:51
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I am citizen of all 3 countries
Then as a Polish citizen you will have employment rights in Switzerland from this month. Previously, there was a quota but this is now removed.

Essentially, an employer no longer needs to apply for a work permit for you - all you need us an employment contract and your residence permit is ensured.
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

If you have tri nationality, but are worried that there may be prejudice against one of those three, then downplay that one on your CV. (Just list the Nationality that you perceive as being the one getting more job offers) If most of your work experience has been, as you say, in North America, then highlight that point. It maybe that you need some help in putting together your complete CV, so that it appeals to potential employers. Do a search on the forum as there was recently a very good suggestion made in regards to CV format and content. Best of luck.
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"No thanks,your qualifications are excellent but..", well I am polish by birth
They are turning you down because you are from an EU8 (Eastern Europe & Baltic) country. If the company would hire you, they would have to prove there isn't any Swiss/EU candidate available for this job, and the contingent for permits hasn't been fully used yet.

Those restrictions will be lifted though at the 30 April 2011, as mentioned by a previous poster.

(I would mention your eligibility somewhere in your application, in case HR is not up to speed.)

Good luck.
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Swiss employers have to hire Swiss workers first, it's the law. If they can't hire a Swiss citizen/permanent resident, they have to hire an EU citizen/permanent resident. If they still can't find anyone, they are allowed to look further afield (all non-EU countries are lumped together at this stage) and import some labor. As you can imagine the job market is pretty tough for non-EUs right now.

This is really not true.

EU citizens have same right as Swiss citizens for employment, ditto for Swiss in EU

If they can't find anybody suitable qualified and they can show evidence that this is the case then they can look to employ from outside Switzerland or the EU.

Providing the permit quota is still available.
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

Thanks to all of you for all the replies. I think the main obstacle presently is that I am not old EU passport holder, that will change in 7 weeks, as part of the discrimination that I don't know , I know that wherever you go you find some haters and people who would like to put you down.I would say my main worry is about quantity of available jobs. In UK,IRE,US, there are quite a few available contract jobs, I don't see that many coming on Swiss market, so that makes me think when one contract comes to an end it is difficult to find another one within short time.
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Forget it... very difficult..lol
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Re: How hard it is to get into Switzerland?

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EU citizens have same right as Swiss citizens for employment, ditto for Swiss in EU

If they can't find anybody suitable qualified and they can show evidence that this is the case then they can look to employ from outside Switzerland or the EU.

Providing the permit quota is still available.
You're right, of course (as were xkcd and swissbob.) I must have got the wrong end of things somehow when I first moved here, and then - being non-EU myself - never had anything happen to me to correct that misunderstanding.
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