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Old 03.02.2011, 12:54
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12 or 15 years, to apply for naturalization

Recently heard from a ZH gemeinde that since 2011, you need min. 15 years to apply for Swiss passport, while used to be 12 years.

Anyone knows about this? Is it in CH level or Canton or Community (or neighberhood, or building) level?
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:07
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Recently heard from a ZH gemeinde that since 2011, you need min. 15 years to apply for Swiss passport, while used to be 12 years.

Anyone knows about this? Is it in CH level or Canton or Community (or neighberhood, or building) level?
Nothing changed, it's still 12years. It's a federal prerequesite.
You can have cantonal & communal pre-requesites like 3-4 years minimum in the canton and/or commune.
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:29
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Nothing changed, it's still 12years. It's a federal prerequesite.
You can have cantonal & communal pre-requesites like 3-4 years minimum in the canton and/or commune.
indeed there's a link on that page which informs you of how long you have to have been static in the past x years. LOL, I'll have been here 20 years before I can apply
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indeed there's a link on that page which informs you of how long you have to have been static in the past x years. LOL, I'll have been here 20 years before I can apply
how is that possible? Care to explain?
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Old 03.02.2011, 14:20
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Re: 12 or 15 years, to apply for naturalization

after 15 years and just before the threshold having moved 5 years earlier, I moved canton.

tick tick tick...
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Old 03.02.2011, 15:36
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Re: 12 or 15 years, to apply for naturalization

Just for fun, we might as well have the other link already mentioned on here, if only because it shows that familiar situation in Switzerland - in spite of a nice clear law with 12 years, the rest depends on where you live. Cantons list
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Old 03.02.2011, 15:59
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Re: 12 or 15 years, to apply for naturalization

Thanx for replies, but can't it be that, Federal mention of 12 years is setting the minimum, and Cantons or communes can add on top?!
In this case, the min. amount of years in commun and canton has been met (7 and 12 years), but still they have told of 15 years, and stating that it is new since 2011!
Will be good to find out what is behind.
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:00
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Just for fun, we might as well have the other link already mentioned on here, if only because it shows that familiar situation in Switzerland - in spite of a nice clear law with 12 years, the rest depends on where you live. Cantons list
Interesting how the "oldest" cantons have the longest waiting time to be allowed to "belong"
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:03
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Interesting how the "oldest" cantons have the longest waiting time to be allowed to "belong"
If you keep asking: "But why?" it can take longer
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:25
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Re: 12 or 15 years, to apply for naturalization

Ask them for the official document where this is writtten. They might not like it, but if they are so adamant, then they should be able to give you chapter and verse. Maybe it really has changed and the official documents haven't been updated on the Internet. But at least then you could come back and tell us. Tell them you want to prove that that ghastly Mod on EF doesn't know what she is talking about and she never believes anything that isn't cut in stone!
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Old 03.02.2011, 17:02
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after 15 years and just before the threshold having moved 5 years earlier, I moved canton.

tick tick tick...
ok a little bit unlucky here. But a good hint to other people who plan to apply, to think before moving.
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Old 03.02.2011, 17:05
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If you keep asking: "But why?" it can take longer
they need more time to see if you are really really motivated to become a swiss citizen of UR or NW.
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ok a little bit unlucky here. But a good hint to other people who plan to apply, to think before moving.
you have the pre-requisits and then can't move during the process......so add on another 2 years
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Staying in ZH canton - is it necessary?

If I'm not mistaken, for the canton of Zurich it takes 10 years to get swiss citizenship. Does it mean all 10 of them I should be living in ZH or moving for a year or two into different canton wouldn't hurt?
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Re: Staying in ZH canton - is it necessary?

I believe it would hurt, but it is possible that the rules have changed.
I know several people whose time was 'reset' by moving kantons, but this was 3-4 years ago.
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Re: 12 or 15 years, to apply for naturalization

It all depends on which canton you make your application. Info all available here:

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...tzfristen.html

For ZH you have stay in your commune for two years. Not too tough although BE and GE are a bit easier as they allow you to move around their respective cantons. Toughest is Uri which requires the 10 years that was mentioned. Federal law requires 12 years residency in CH.
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It all depends on which canton you make your application. Info all available here:

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...tzfristen.html

For ZH you have stay in your commune for two years. Not too tough although BE and GE are a bit easier as they allow you to move around their respective cantons. Toughest is Uri which requires the 10 years that was mentioned. Federal law requires 12 years residency in CH.
Thanks for the link.
So, I'm free to work around Switzerland as long as I stay last 2 years in one comune in ZH.
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Thanks for the link.
So, I'm free to work around Switzerland as long as I stay last 2 years in one comune in ZH.
Maybe and maybe not. It depends on how long the community requires you to stay (not just canton).
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