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Old 20.02.2011, 14:36
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

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short clarification: in this thread, i sometimes read the word "stellenantritt", which can cause some confusion.

"stellenantritt" in german language simply means: (date of your) first working day (at the new employer).

stelle (or arbeitsstelle) = job
antritt (or beginn) = beginning (of a job or shift at a factory)

so don't be surprised, when your (german speaking) vis-à-vis looks confused if you ask him/her "what about my stellenantritt?". she/he probably could not imagine what should be wrong with it
That is the literal translation but it also commonly means the letter informing you of your application success, your permit type, and your permit validity start date.

All Swiss employers will know exactly what is being referred to .
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

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Dear all,

I joined the group a couple of weeks back and I was going through most of the threads to find an answer for my question. But it didn't help me probably because of lot of jargons. I come across cases where people discussing about Open B permit , closed B permit, B permit restricted to a project, short term B permit etc.,

Is it possible for me to find out my B permit type without reaching the labour authorities?

OR

In my case, on the front side of the work permit it is written as 'Mit Erwerbstätigkeit' and on the back side it is written as "Selbst. Erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig". Is there any way I can find out what type of permit I hold with this information alone?

Sorry if I duplicated the thread discussed some where earlier and thanks for your helpful information.
Why are you afraid of asking the authorities? Just make a simple 5 minute phone call to the Federal Migration Office in Bern (031 325 11 11), they will tell you everything you want to know about your permit.
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Dear GoForIT,

Thanks a lot for the info. I Checked my STELLENANTRITT to get the details and here it is. There is a fixed start and end date 12/June/2010 till 11/June/2011.

The below contents have been written in the BEDIGUNGEN and BEMERKUNGEN section.

BEDIGUNGEN
Gemäss awa-Verfgüng vom 24.09.2010
Verlängerung um 12 Monate Art,83 Abs. 3 VZAE
ein Stellenwechsel ist grundsätzlich nicht möglich

BEMERKUNGEN
Diese Verfügung ist provisorisch und gilt nur bis zum Erhalt der neuen Anwesenheitsbewilligung. Einsatzort: Zürich Vers.-Gesellschaft, Zürich

and my company name is given in the stellenantritt als section. Is there a way I can find out the type of the permit with this information?

Thanks and Regards,
Mani
Hi,
I had the same text in my Stellenantritt but the text " ein Stellenwechsel ist grundsätzlich nicht möglich" is now missing in the one that I got with my last renewal.
Does it mean i am a free bird or I still have some hidden constraints like "Project related permit" etc?
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

Hi all,

I would like to revive this thread, as I do not see anything that applies to my case.

I received my first B permit after 2 years with L ( I am a non-eu with unlimited contract). Here is my case:

-My permit card does not state the name of my company anywhere

-Neither my permit card nor my "stellenantritt" paper have the words "stellenwechsel nicht moeglich".

-the "stellenantritt" paper has the words "Frist Zur Ausreise" before my title and company name. (is this important???).

the permit has a duration of 1 year, renewable up to 36 mo. from Einreise.

any clues?

thx
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

What is your nationality ? It sounds like you have a 5 year limit, I wonder if you are from one of the countries where after 5 years you get a C permit ?
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

Is it enough to say I am not American, Canadian, Australian, etc. ?
my country does not require a visa to enter the Shengen area and theres very few of us in der Schweiz
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

So what is your actual question ? You have a Non-EU B permit. Not tied to your employer. Free to work. Will be renewed every year, provided that you have a job or are entitled to unemployment insurance.

No idea about why it has a 36 month limit - unless it's a 3 year pre-approved time limit before it gets reviewed again ?
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

Sorry!! I should have stated my question more clearly.

Am I actually free????

I had read in other threads that though the name is not in the card, the permit might still be attached.

I also read that there might be something in this "stellenantritt" paper, but nothing explicit like the person earlier in this thread.

I do not want to get my hopes up in vain,

does it really mean I am free?
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

Quickest way is to contact the authority that issued the work permit and check your status. A prospective employer can do this easily with a phone call. I actually have a letter that was issued that specifically states that I am free to work anywhere in Switzerland... they issued it to my employer, but she gave me a copy
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Old 30.07.2012, 00:22
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

So... I mailed a form I found here in the forum asking the AWA whether I can change jobs.

This form comes with a "multiple choice" section that the AWA agent is supposed to answer and mail back.

The options are:
a. you can change jobs, no need for any additional authorization
b. you can change jobs WITH an authorization
c. no you cannot change jobs because you are linked to a project.

but the answer I got was a handwritten note saying that my work permit is temporary and bound to my employer.

I thought that having a B permit meant that I should have gotten either answer a. or b.

has anyone seen anything like this??

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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

are you EU or non-EU. ?

how long have you been in Switzerland ?

Do you have a photo permit which has the details of your employer printed on the back ?

Do you have a permanent, ongoing, open work contract ?

What is the end date for your employment contract ?
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

I am non-EU, i have been 2 years in CH, and I have a credit-card format permit that does not specify my company's name on the back.

My contract is permanent.

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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

Have you actually completed 2 years employment ? Because that is when the 'tied' permits usually switch over for Non-EU to 'open' visas - possibly the person who wrote the note was basing it on your current status (this week) rather than your new permit which would be due...

I literally changed jobs the day I went from an 'L' dependent, with work permission, to a 'B' dependent - not a day sooner!

Were you on an L permit for the first two years ?
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

I just checked and that is probably it. The person signed the form 1 day before the expiry date of my L permit.

I completed 2 years last week during which I had L permit.

There is , however, an overlap between my B permit and L permit (the validity date of the B permit is 3 weeks before the expiry of the L)
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Re: Any easy way to find your B permit type?

Hi there,

I just called the AWA, they said that despite having a B, change of employer is not possible: "berufwechsel ist grundsätzlich nicht möglich".

I asked if could I change when my current employer agreed to let me go to a new job. And the person said no.

I do not understand anything anymore !!!

Is there a kind of B permit that cannot be changed at all??

What are my options if I do not want this job anymore and I do not want to go home either?
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