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Closure Needed / dependent child visa options

I need to ask something that's been eating at me for some time now.

Here goes- I'm 19 and have been living in Geneva since I was 17. My dad works at the UN, and so everyone in my family of four has a carte de legitimation.

However, I don't study or work here. I'd love to, but the fact is that I am suffering from severe obsessive-compulsive disorder. Sure, I'm recovering now, but it'll undoubtedly be some time before I'll be able to read a novel from start to end without trouble, let alone be capable of attending university.

My point is this- how long will I be allowed to continue living in the country this way, solely as a dependent child and nothing else, before I'm deported or whatever?

And that's not even the start of it- the country whose citizenship I hold is a primitive, god-forsaken dungeon with inhabitants that harbor incomprehensibly narrow, medieval mindsets and was the primary factor that initiated the onset of this abhorrent disorder (oh yeah, OCD is brought on by an interplay between nature and nurture; even if you are genetically predisposed to developing it, you need something to trigger the symptoms off).

And here's the irony. I suspect that, once my condition had become evident, saving me the torment of having to face the oppressive, stifling environment that exists there was among the reasons my father applied to the UN in the first place.

How do you expect me to deal with that? Wanting to come to a land where people are not intent on breaking your spirit, and getting there, but not being able to stay because of the very reason you couldn't bear to live where you're being slung back to to begin with?

Ah, here I am, ranting (yet) again. Apologies. I just want my question answered.

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Re: Closure Needed

You are a dependent member of your family, who are employed and look after you. Therefore, being not dependent on the state for your living expenses ..... you will not be flung out.

By the time you are standing on your own two feet and independent, your fears will have abated.

Try to not look too far into the future, appreciate your present existence, and work on whatever it is you need to do for yourself ... in the NOW.

And cheer up.
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Re: Closure Needed

Hello Gsazraetr,

I don't have any expert advice to offer on visas, but from the post above it seems you have nothing to worry about. If possible why not mention to your Dad that you're worried about things? I understand you might not want to bring it up with him, but it could be a good way to put your mind at rest and he's probably already thought this through.

Aside from that, if you're not working or studying this is your chance to set yourself goals and see what you can do to improve your situation.

Reading a whole novel may be a long way off, but think about something much, much smaller you can do that does seem achievable. Best of luck
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You seem an articulate well spoken young man. I wish you all the best with your future, you will do fine.
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Hi Gsazraetr,

Children of UN staff are entitled to a carte de légitimation until their 25th birthday. After that, they may remain in Switzerland if they're able to secure a permit of a different kind.

I definitely sense a lot of potential in you and wish you all the best.
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Ah....... Another Aussie !!!

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I have no experience with this disorder, but I hope you get better soon.
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My point is this- how long will I be allowed to continue living in the country this way, solely as a dependent child and nothing else, before I'm deported or whatever?
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Hi Gsazraetr,
Children of UN staff are entitled to a carte de légitimation until their 25th birthday. After that, they may remain in Switzerland if they're able to secure a permit of a different kind.
Not quite.

As long as the person is financially dependant on the main permit holder they are allowed to continue their stay.
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Nah, I'm not an Aussie. In fact, although I know nothing about the kind of regressiveness in Australia that you speak of, I'm almost certain that it would pale in comparison to what I've witnessed, not to mention faced, due to my little accident of birth.
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Nah, I'm not an Aussie. In fact, although I know nothing about the kind of regressiveness in Australia that you speak of, I'm almost certain that it would pale in comparison to what I've witnessed, not to mention faced, due to my little accident of birth.
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Not quite.

As long as the person is financially dependant on the main permit holder they are allowed to continue their stay.
Now this is interesting! I've always been warned to look for something before I turn 25 as I will be kicked out of the country if I don't... The carte de légitimation office at the UNOG also said that the validity of my carte extends only until my 25th birthday - and this is also what I've gathered from the related discussions in this forum. How does one prove financial dependence on the main permit holder?
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Not quite.

As long as the person is financially dependant on the main permit holder they are allowed to continue their stay.
Our whole family just had our cartes de légitimation renewed; my parents' cartes will expire in 2016 while mine is only until my 25th birthday (a few months from now). I wonder if it's really possible to have the validity extended through demonstrating financial dependence?
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