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30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

Hello everybody,
as far as I know, 30.4.2011 should be last day of separate quota-based approach for EU-8 citizens, and they should be treated as rest of EU. Exception for Romania/Bulgaria (EU-2), which have later date. Does anybody have any information on this date? I remember that on some propagation papers at immigration office in Zurich last year, there was something like
"... this exception period will be active till 30.4.2011, or can be prolonged till something 2014? if conditions on swiss labor market will be considered extremely bad...".
I cannot judge, conditions might not be super good, but i don't feel them as very bad (but hey, i'm in IT ).
Soo, any info about that?
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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

I am in the same boat, being EU-8, and waiting for this magic date!

I would imagine if it would be prolonged, it would have been announced
by now.

.. considered extremely bad..." ?

Zu wenig Arbeitslose: RAV streicht Stellen
http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/zentra...rn/art92,79661

Die Arbeitslosenquote verharrt bei 3,8 Prozent.
http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/politi...1.9408018.html

Which country in Europe has a lower unemployment rate than Switzerland?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy...n#Unemployment


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Hello everybody,
as far as I know, 30.4.2011 should be last day of separate quota-based approach for EU-8 citizens, and they should be treated as rest of EU. Exception for Romania/Bulgaria (EU-2), which have later date. Does anybody have any information on this date? I remember that on some propagation papers at immigration office in Zurich last year, there was something like
"... this exception period will be active till 30.4.2011, or can be prolonged till something 2014? if conditions on swiss labor market will be considered extremely bad...".
I cannot judge, conditions might not be super good, but i don't feel them as very bad (but hey, i'm in IT ).
Soo, any info about that?
Thanx
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I am in the same boat, being EU-8, and waiting for this magic date!

I would imagine if it would be prolonged, it would have been announced
by now.

.. considered extremely bad..." ?

Zu wenig Arbeitslose: RAV streicht Stellen
http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/zentra...rn/art92,79661

Die Arbeitslosenquote verharrt bei 3,8 Prozent.
http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/politi...1.9408018.html

Which country in Europe has a lower unemployment rate than Switzerland?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy...n#Unemployment
That sucks this is happenings...
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That sucks this is happenings...
I'm sure citizens of the 8 EU countries that benefit from the new rules would not agree with you.
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Old 25.04.2011, 07:32
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I'm sure citizens of the 8 EU countries that benefit from the new rules would not agree with you.
No I mean if it is delayed, sorry, maybe I misread. I recently read the SVP is trying to delay implementation, but I'm not sure the status of that now.
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No I mean if it is delayed, sorry, maybe I misread. I recently read the SVP is trying to delay implementation, but I'm not sure the status of that now.
Well it is quite late for delays now I believe, although I am not following recent news on this (being in french speaking canton without proper french knowledge). Anyway for me it's not a showstopper, just removal of some obsolete obstacles, that take time to arrange. If anyone has recent news, please post them here! Thanx
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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

This is still current from the BfM's website:

Vollständige Personenfreizügigkeit für Staatsangehörige der EU-8

Medienmitteilungen, EJPD, 30.03.2011
Bern. Ab 1. Mai 2011 kommen die Staatsangehörigen der EU-8 erstmals in den Genuss der vollständigen Personenfreizügigkeit. Der Bundesrat hat heute die Teilrevision der Verordnung über die schrittweise Einführung des freien Personenverkehrs zwischen der Schweizerischen Eidgenossenschaft und der Europäischen Gemeinschaft und deren Mitgliedstaaten sowie unter den Mitgliedstaaten der Europäischen Freihandelsassoziation (VEP) gutgeheissen.


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Federal Justice and Police
Full persons to nationals of the EU-8

Press Release, FDJP, 03/30/2011
Bern. From 1 May 2011 are nationals of the EU-8 for the first time to enjoy the full persons. The Federal Council today announced the partial revision of the Regulation on the gradual introduction of free movement of persons between Switzerland and the European Community and its Member States and between Member States of the European Free Trade Association (VEP) approved.


The nationals of the new EU Member States ie, Bulgaria and Romania (EU-2), are not affected by these changes and are subject to the transitional provisions continue. This excludes the self-employed individuals, from 1 June 2011 by the Protocol of 27 May 2008 on the extension of the FMP on Bulgaria and Romania, (FZA Protocol II) to benefit from a liberalization come.
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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

An article about the EU8 in Switzerland:


Rough English Translation

"Only half the story on East Immigration"

Original German

"Nur die halbe die Wahrheit ueber Ost-ZuWanderung"
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On tonight's Swiss news it was stated the quota system is now inactive and the EU 8 have free access to Switzerland.

There is a clause that if Switzerland is overrun, then they can temporary bring in quotas again.

A spokesman from the planet Mars said he did not expect a surge as the Franc is strong, and previous quotas were only taken up by 60% of the east bloc citizens. He also stated that employers were encouraged to respect the rules and not encourage lohn-dumping... We can only wait and see, things can only get worse.

I predict here will be much trouble in low paid, low skill jobs, such as retirement home care workers, catering, security and cleaning.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13256288

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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

I am from EU-8 myself and moving to Switzerland in a month, I contacted Swiss immigration in advance and was assured that there are NO restrictions after 1st of May for EU-8 citizens anymore.
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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

In rural areas a lot of polish cars. The Swiss farmers are glad about this new workforce but they know it won't last.
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I am from EU-8 myself and moving to Switzerland in a month, I contacted Swiss immigration in advance and was assured that there are NO restrictions after 1st of May for EU-8 citizens anymore.
Maybe there is no official restriction but I think everything needs some time... Sometimes when the job starts even in next few months you can read that "due to governmental regulations only those with passport from an eu17 country can be considered"-job advert was posted i.e. in April, they weren't sure about that so they kept it like it was what I can understand. The question is if HR won't be too lazy to change that after 1st May and they will "open their minds" for new work force
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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

Yeah, but I already have a job...
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Re: 30.4.2011 - EU-8 access to labor market change?

so good news after all
that information about 60% usage of quota is interesting, meaning that there will be no more competition to current expats... theoretically. In reality many IT job offers (highly paid) had tag saying about country of origin, and personal agencies were rejecting heavily when seeing country of origin, without chance to prove oneself's skills.
For example my current employer gave me condition (in working contract), that when I will not get permit issued within 1 month, he has right to fire me, and he would do that. It took 3 weeks But colleagues from France, Ireland etc. got their permits (confirmations) next day, so this might put more equality to working market.
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For example my current employer gave me condition (in working contract), that when I will not get permit issued within 1 month, he has right to fire me, and he would do that.
Well that's a load of bull considering the employer must apply for the permit and you can't start work before the permit is issued therefore cannot be fired before the permit is issued .
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Well that's a load of bull considering the employer must apply for the permit and you can't start work before the permit is issued therefore cannot be fired before the permit is issued .
well technically you are right. in reality, they didn't hire another guy (indian) exactly because of this. my contract had also another jewel - when fired within first 20 MDs, i would not get paid a single franc (but that was agency issue, company would pay whole sum). what for is permit if employer says "goodbye"?
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