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Old 12.04.2011, 21:05
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EU - seconded by company in Ireland to zurich for 12-18 months

Hi there - just wondering if anyone can help with this? I've been reading up on sites/internet and have myself completely confused! What sort of visa (if any) do I need:
- I will be still registered in the Irish tax system, paid by a company in Ireland, and am a citizen there too
- I will be renting an apartment (probably furnished / serviced) in Zurich.
- I will be here >6 months and probably 12-18
- I will be working in a swiss company, but they won't be paying me directly
- I will be going back home on average once a month to visit my company office for 2-3 days

Just wondering in these circumstances
1) Do I need a visa?
2) If so which type, an L or a B?

Finally - unrelated Qn... under these circumstances would I need to get the Health Insurance. Just I see it's 6-7k a year for 2 people. Just wondering do I need this so long as I'm here for > 3 months.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 14.04.2011, 13:26
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Re: EU - seconded by company in Ireland to zurich for 12-18 months

Hiya,

I'm not an expert but this sounds like my own situation when I first arrived here.

You do need a visa. You'll need a letter from your company stating how long you're going to be here (or if it's open ended). Based on that you'll either be given an L (if your assignment is fixed term) or a B (if the letter says it's an open ended assignment).

You'll be asked to take out a local health insurance policy, but you can be exempted from that if you can prove you have adequate international health insurance from your employer in Ireland.

Regarding tax, I think you'll find you are required to pay tax in Switzerland if you live here for that period of time. As such you will not need to pay it in Ireland for that time period. I'd pursue this as it's probably lower here. You'll need to speak to your HR to establish their policy on this, tax protection (good) or tax equalisation (bad).

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Old 14.04.2011, 14:03
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You do need a visa.
No, he does not.
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Old 14.04.2011, 14:14
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Hi there - just wondering if anyone can help with this? I've been reading up on sites/internet and have myself completely confused! What sort of visa (if any) do I need:
No visa required.

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- I will be still registered in the Irish tax system, paid by a company in Ireland, and am a citizen there too
That's besides the point. If you are in Switzerland for more than 180 days in the year you pay tax in Switzerland. You will need to make use of the double tax agreement with Ireland to reduce your tax burden there.

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- I will be here >6 months and probably 12-18
- I will be working in a swiss company, but they won't be paying me directly
- I will be going back home on average once a month to visit my company office for 2-3 days
Does your company have a presence in Switzerland? If not then the authorities may view you as a disguised employee of the Swiss client in which case it could be expensive for them as they may have to pick up your social security charges.

You must register within 8 days of arrival - when you do, take along a copy of the contract between you and your employer and between your employer and the end client. You do not need a visa but do require a residence permit - with an 18 month plus contract you will probably get an EU B permit.

To be honest, the Swiss company should be aware of the requirements and their HR dept should be able to help you. They have a responsibility for making sure that all employees and external workers are working legally.

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Finally - unrelated Qn... under these circumstances would I need to get the Health Insurance. Just I see it's 6-7k a year for 2 people. Just wondering do I need this so long as I'm here for > 3 months.
Actually a very related question. Yes, you will need Swiss health insurance but where did you get 6-7K a year for 2 people? I have insurance for my entire family of 6 for that sort of money.
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