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D Visa question

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My family and I are planning a year in Switzerland away from our home in Canada. We applied for and are awaiting enrollment for my kids at a couple of international schools for the year and until we hear back we do not know where we will be living (Lugano, Montreux or Lausanne). We have no intention of working and have the means to support ourselves for the year without work. But my issue is that it will take 4 months to process our D Visa application once we are in a position to submit them(which will not be until we have confirmed acceptance into our kids' school and know the Canton where we will be located). I guess my questions are:

-is it possible to live in Switzerland while our D Visa application is being processed? If so, do we all need to return to Canada to collect them?
-can we arrange for a house rental without a valid visa?
-does anyone have any suggestions for making this process less painful ?
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Old 28.04.2011, 20:14
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Hi there....

My family and I are planning a year in Switzerland away from our home in Canada. We applied for and are awaiting enrollment for my kids at a couple of international schools for the year and until we hear back we do not know where we will be living (Lugano, Montreux or Lausanne). We have no intention of working and have the means to support ourselves for the year without work. But my issue is that it will take 4 months to process our D Visa application once we are in a position to submit them(which will not be until we have confirmed acceptance into our kids' school and know the Canton where we will be located). I guess my questions are:

-is it possible to live in Switzerland while our D Visa application is being processed? If so, do we all need to return to Canada to collect them?
-can we arrange for a house rental without a valid visa?
-does anyone have any suggestions for making this process less painful ?
Well if you intend to live for a year in Switzerland without working then you must be pretty rich. How about hiring a lawyer to do the necessary for you?
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Old 28.04.2011, 20:25
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Re: D Visa question

No. You can't live in Switzerland on a D visa as this is an entry visa and not a resident permit.

Your situation sounds really very complicated. I'd agree with Gata in that you probably need a lawyer for this one.
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Old 28.04.2011, 20:36
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Re: D Visa question

Reminds me of that the thread not too long ago by the member from Canada who wanted to buy farmland in CH.

Anyway, welcome to the forum.

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Re: D Visa question

I don't mean to be a party pooper either, but this country is not a country to just show up without work and expect to get a resident permit, if you are out of EU, that is. Our US friends just had to leave, despite them being freelancing, since they did not make enough. They did have ton of cash in a bank, though. Sustainable living means steady income, for authorities here. You can blow all you have within a month here. So, authorities want some kind of guarantee that you will be taken care of.

Since you are already waiting for schools and looking for a house, probably, how about spending some time looking for a job, too, while you are at it?
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Re: D Visa question

Hmmm....thanks for the "help"....to clarify, I do have a job and have decided that taking a year off to give my children a chance to learn a new culture would be worth the substantial sacrifices that we are undertaking to do this. I would hire a lawyer but would hope that it wouldn't be necessary to do so. Any constructive advice would be appreciated.
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Hmmm....thanks for the "help"....to clarify, I do have a job and have decided that taking a year off to give my children a chance to learn a new culture would be worth the substantial sacrifices that we are undertaking to do this. I would hire a lawyer but would hope that it wouldn't be necessary to do so. Any constructive advice would be appreciated.
We did give you some advice. Its up to you if you want to follow it. And if you think its going to be easy then im sorry but you are in for a surprise...
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Hmmm....thanks for the "help"....to clarify, I do have a job and have decided that taking a year off to give my children a chance to learn a new culture would be worth the substantial sacrifices that we are undertaking to do this. I would hire a lawyer but would hope that it wouldn't be necessary to do so. Any constructive advice would be appreciated.
What do you want us to tell you?

It's not easy at all and the fact that you don't know what canton you want to apply to makes it even more difficult as authority must be given by the canton for a non working long stay visa, if that even possible now a days.

We've given you advice: Go talk to an lawyer and your closest consulate.

You might want to try France. It seems to be easier to do the year abroad thing there.

ETA: This company helps people who wish to move to Switzerland to live off independent income:
http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/index.html

Good luck with your project!
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Re: D Visa question

Maybe , if your kids apply for an international school in Switzerland? So that you can stay in Switzerland as guardian? You won't be allowed to work but have the right to stay here as long as they are studying at the school.

I am not sure if this is a possible solution, just a thought.

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Maybe , if your kids apply for an international school in Switzerland? So that you can stay in Switzerland as guardian?
Please point us at the legislation allowing that.
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-does anyone have any suggestions for making this process less painful ?
Yes. Forget it. It's not possible. I'm surprised the embassy where you are applying for visa's didn't tell you that they are not actually needed for Canadain ciizens coming as tourists. Of course, you can only stay for 3 months as tourists.
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Re: D Visa question

Thanks all. I guess the real answer is that it's a painful process and just deal with it. We have finalized our school plans and have applied for the appropriate VISA through the consulate in Toronto. Seems that there are quite a few families doing the same thing as us so they were familiar with the process. I guess in Canada we are used to people just arriving and circumventing the official immigration guidelines.
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Re: D Visa question

As a fellow Canadian, although one that has to work while here , I can confirm that things are VERY different in Switzerland! but the one thing is that the 4 month waiting period rarely happens for Canadians - it should be a lot sooner than that but don't book your flights until you have that little stamp in your passport (or if you come over as a tourist first, just be ready to make arrangements with the Consulate to send the paperwork to a neighbouring country as you can't pick it up in Switzerland - you have to enter the country with it...not that they check if you come by train! had to go to Munich to pick up hubby's dependent permit and it was the consulate folks in Vancouver who set that up for us so he could come with me as soon as I got my permit)

The Toronto Consulate will be able to walk you through the steps, and as long as you listen to them, check off every piece of paper they ask for (most in triplicate), and get them the pictures in the exact format requested, it is possible to do exactly what you are wanting to do. But I would strongly suggest you at least go for a first consultation with a lawyer so if anything goes wrong, you have someone to call who already knows what your situation is.

Good luck! Your kids are very lucky to have parents who want to give them this type of experience!
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Thanks very much Caninsui - that is very helpful!
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