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Citizenship question

Hi, everyone!

Sorry for such a long post!

Let me start off with a bit of background info before I get to my question. My mom, who was born to Swiss parents here in the US, is, therefore, a Swiss citizen. Up through college, she maintained regular contact/remained registered with the Consulate General of New York. However, after college, she moved down here to South Carolina with my dad to attend graduate school and ended up staying down here (read: didn't move back to Boston). Ever since she moved, she hasn't registered with our regional consulate here (the CG in Atlanta), meaning that in addition to not having any contact with the consulate for 25 years, she has also not updated her civil status regarding marriage/divorce, children (myself and sister), etc.

With that being said, upon learning a couple years ago that my mom never registered my or my sister's birth with Switzerland, meaning as of current I'm not a citizen, I immediately started in on the paperwork to get myself registered as a citizen since I would really like to move to Switzerland after I'm finished with college. After contacting the embassy, I was given a packet of papers to fill out (containing among other things a consulate registration form and birth registration form for myself) as well as a list of documents needed (e.g. birth certs, Familienschein, forms of ID, etc.) to update her civil status.

I completed all of the paperwork and sent it and the required documents in. About a week later, I received the ID's (US Passports; they were needed just for ID verification) back via FedEx as expected and enclosed in the FedEx envelope from the consul with whom I have been corresponding was a letter. To sum up the letter, it basically said "Thanks, Mr. C. I translated sent your docs to Aarau (mother's place of origin) to update her civil status." I thought, "okay then."

But then, at the end of the letter, it read, "Once I have received the confirmation from the Aarau AG Zivilstandsamt that her civil status has been successfully updated, I will contact you with further instructions on requesting your citizenship."

That's where I was confused. What I don't understand is:
  • If I'm her child and I'm registered in CH before I'm 22 as per Swiss Nationality Law, shouldn't I be automatically granted citizenship?
  • Unless I'm understanding it wrong, don't children born to Swiss mothers automatically acquire citizenship?
  • Does anyone know the actual process that I would need to go through to "request" citizenship? I mean, I don't have to go through the actual naturalization process, do I? I will if I have to, but that's kind of expensive :P (Nat. fee according to local consulate is 740CHF)
And it has been verified that my mother IS still a Swiss citizen. She did not lose her citizenship upon marrying my non-Swiss (American) father. The "Beamtin" at the Aarau AG Zivilstandsamt has verified this to me multiple times.

Thanks for your help and input, and again, sorry for the long post!
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And it has been verified that my mother IS still a Swiss citizen. She did not lose her citizenship upon marrying my non-Swiss (American) father. The "Beamtin" at the Aarau AG Zivilstandsamt has verified this to me multiple times.
Why exactly is the Aarauer Beamtin not able to answer your questions?
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Well, initially, my only contact with her was to order a Familienschein to determine whether or not my mother was still a citizen. Once I obtained it, I looked at it and the consul in Atlanta verified that she still is, but the consul still wanted me to check with the Beamtin once more to make sure. (My mom was married in 1989, so the consul wasn't sure if my mom had lost her citizenship or not, since the laws have since changed regarding marrying foreigners.) The Beamtin varified once more that yes, she still is a citizen and that she would still be after updating her Zivilstand.

I asked the Beamtin about passing on citizenship, and she said under normal (domestic/within CH) circumstances, yes, I would automatically get it. But she said that since it was being handled abroad, I would have to refer to my regional consulate for advice toward my specific situation.

Upon asking the consul for details about the "process," I got back the reply, (to quote the consul exactly: ) "Like I said, Mr. C: I will contact you with further instructions ONCE the confirmation has been received by myself or another consul here at the Consulate. Until then, there is no more action that can be taken."

So no one in an official position has really been of any help.
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I don't know what you are concerned about. It's all well and good to call up and get the info on the phone. But now they need to get the official confirmation in writing from your mom's canton of origin.

They called and got you to call to make sure now one was wasting their time.

Once they get the official confirmation, then they will get to you.

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Have you ever been to Switzerland? Why not visit and decide if you like it and you can probably sort this out when you're in town.
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Chill.
The best advice I've heard throughout the entire process!

I figure everything's going as planned, but I just got a bit worried there! At first I wasn't sure if I had to go through some sort of "Simplified Naturalization" process, and as a broke college student, 740CHF in naturalization fees is kinda hard to fork over
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Have you ever been to Switzerland? Why not visit and decide if you like it and you can probably sort this out when you're in town.
Well the last time I was there was in summer '09, and that's how the whole "citizenship" discussion got started anyway. I just assumed that since my cousin (my mom's only sister's son) was a citizen, that my mom had registered me too, but I found out that wasn't the case :/ So once we got back to the US after the trip, I started the whole process. (Couldn't start it in Switzerland; my Grandmother's death was never registered with CG New York, so I had to order a death cert and send that in before anything else could be done.)


I really would like to take another trip, but kinda low on cash right now after going to CH back in '09 and going for an exchange summer to Germany last summer. Hopefully can take a trip soon though.
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The best advice I've heard throughout the entire process!

I figure everything's going as planned, but I just got a bit worried there! At first I wasn't sure if I had to go through some sort of "Simplified Naturalization" process, and as a broke college student, 740CHF in naturalization fees is kinda hard to fork over
Highly unlikely. Just wait it out. (oh & study!)
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Highly unlikely. Just wait it out. (oh & study!)
Thanks for the advice; sounds good!

As for studying I'll try... too bad it's not as interesting as poking around this forum!
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