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Non-EU Spouse of EU Citizen

Good Morning all,

I need an advice from you all regarding the visa/work permit law for Switzerland.

About us: I'm non-EU spouse(Indian) of an EU citizen(Estonian), and we are planning to start a new life in Switzerland. For past 6 years i've been living in London, and i work in Finance sector. My wife she is studying in 2nd year BA in Business mgmt. She is fluent in German and she will enrol in some swiss business school next year.
However, we want to move to swiss this summer, and we don't know anything about immigration law.

My questions are:

(1) What permit do we need in order to move to Switzerland?
(2) My wife will not be looking for an employment this year but she will start her Uni next year, in that case am I eligible to look for an employment and what permit or rights do i have?
(3) Is it time consuming and bureaucratic to get permit?

I appreciate your help in advance.

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Old 17.05.2011, 11:27
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Re: Non-EU Spouse of EU Citizen

Top right, there's a box that says 'search'. This comes up many times...
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Top right, there's a box that says 'search'. This comes up many times...

(2) My wife will not be looking for an employment this year but she will start her Uni next year, in that case am I eligible to look for an employment and what permit or rights do i have?

Couldn't get relevant answer to the question above. for rest i did manage to get somewhat answer.
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(2) My wife will not be looking for an employment this year but she will start her Uni next year, in that case am I eligible to look for an employment and what permit or rights do i have?

Couldn't get relevant answer to the question above. for rest i did manage to get somewhat answer.
If CH is following the EU directive on freedom of movement you are granted the same rights as the EU member, provided the relationship subsists and the EU member continues to exercise a treaty right (in her case by studying) but otherwise by working or self-sufficiency.

Whether CH follows this or interprets it in a different way I don't know.
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Old 17.05.2011, 16:11
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If CH is following the EU directive on freedom of movement you are granted the same rights as the EU member, provided the relationship subsists and the EU member continues to exercise a treaty right (in her case by studying) but otherwise by working or self-sufficiency.

Whether CH follows this or interprets it in a different way I don't know.
Switzerland is not part of the EU but adopts many of the regs. Here, though, it is the bilateral agreements on fom that apply.
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Switzerland is not part of the EU but adopts many of the regs. Here, though, it is the bilateral agreements on fom that apply.
I bow to Swissbob, he's da man on Swiss immigration rules.
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I bow to Swissbob, he's da man on Swiss immigration rules.
Thanks Stek

Hey SwissBob... any suggestions?
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Old 18.05.2011, 21:01
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Thanks Stek

Hey SwissBob... any suggestions?
Not really, it's too confusing. In this post you say your wife will be attending a Swiss business school - in others you say she will be studying German. Then you say she is in year 2 of a BA and next minute you say she will start university next year.

I'd get your story straight before talking to any Swiss authorities .
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Not really, it's too confusing. In this post you say your wife will be attending a Swiss business school - in others you say she will be studying German. Then you say she is in year 2 of a BA and next minute you say she will start university next year.

I'd get your story straight before talking to any Swiss authorities .
Sorry, but to confuse you it was not my intension.
My wife will def gonna attend business school but she needs C1 level of german to do so. At present her level is b2. Hence she will work/study till next year summer. and after she will be f/t student.

But i need to find work to reach our goals. And as you suggested before that only way i could get work permit is only if my wife has permanent job. Therefore, she needs to find one but i donn want her to work for full 12 months as i want her to finish off with her education first.

Somehow we have to find a balance to beat the system. If it were any EU country then we wouldn't have faced such problem. Anyways you are open to suggest/comment or advice.

You must be wondering why one wants to move to swiss if one is well settled in UK. Well, my spouse doesn't want to live anymore in london, as she has lived 4-5 years in Zurich before moving to london.

I hope it makes sense and i hope now its less confusing.

Please i will appreciate your help in this matter.
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Old 18.05.2011, 22:25
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But i need to find work to reach our goals. And as you suggested before that only way i could get work permit is only if my wife has permanent job. Therefore, she needs to find one but i donn want her to work for full 12 months as i want her to finish off with her education first.
What does you wife want? Does she want to work to reach her goals?

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You must be wondering why one wants to move to swiss if one is well settled in UK.
No. The thought never even crossed my mind! lol.
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Old 18.05.2011, 22:40
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Re: Non-EU Spouse of EU Citizen

Having lived in Zurich for 4 or 5 years she must be fairly aware of regulations for permits, though they would have changed, perhaps even in your favour, since then.
The problem may be finding work that would pay enough for you both to live here even before she starts studying, unless you got a good position here first before arriving.
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Old 18.05.2011, 23:44
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But i need to find work to reach our goals. And as you suggested before that only way i could get work permit is only if my wife has permanent job. Therefore, she needs to find one but i donn want her to work for full 12 months as i want her to finish off with her education first.
Your permit is linked to your wife's permit - that bit you don't seem to get.

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Somehow we have to find a balance to beat the system.
This is Switzerland - that just isn't going to happen.
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Having lived in Zurich for 4 or 5 years she must be fairly aware of regulations for permits, though they would have changed, perhaps even in your favour, since then.
The problem may be finding work that would pay enough for you both to live here even before she starts studying, unless you got a good position here first before arriving.
I think we have enough savings to take care of us for 1st 6 mths but after that i need a job.

I'm qualified accountant hence i believe i can find some decent job. Although, i have to get min B1 level in german.

I really want her to finish off her degree first and then worry about earning monies. Well for first 2 years i need to find some way to beat the system. Even if i have to incorporate a trading company in Swiss....that means addtional ch20k investment....hmmm
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This is Switzerland - that just isn't going to happen.
You cannot beat the system in Switzerland many have tried and failed.

Many times these questions are asked and many times they are answered.

I know of no one, unless a multi-millionaire who has been able to "beat" the system.

So feel free to try if you wish, just don't say you weren't warned before you attempt what ever you have in mind.

Switzerland is not the UK/EU rules cannot be "bent" play the game according to the rules like everyone else.
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I think we have enough savings to take care of us for 1st 6 mths but after that i need a job.

I'm qualified accountant hence i believe i can find some decent job. Although, i have to get min B1 level in german.

I really want her to finish off her degree first and then worry about earning monies. Well for first 2 years i need to find some way to beat the system. Even if i have to incorporate a trading company in Swiss....that means addtional ch20k investment....hmmm
That won't work. you still won't have the correct permit to work even if you where the sole employee.
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That won't work. you still won't have the correct permit to work even if you where the sole employee.

If i make my wife as sole employee (director) for a swiss based company then what permit she will get? i guess B permit which allows one to work. and i will get the same......

what do you say? Any suggestions?
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If i make my wife as sole employee (director) for a swiss based company then what permit she will get? i guess B permit which allows one to work. and i will get the same......

what do you say? Any suggestions?
I thought she was going to university?

Seriously, stop it now.
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If i make my wife as sole employee (director) for a swiss based company then what permit she will get? i guess B permit which allows one to work. and i will get the same......

what do you say? Any suggestions?
In the UK it's called 'attempting to circumvent the immigration rules' and can land you in jail and I bet the Swiss will be tougher.

You've contradicted yourself so many times I don't fancy your chances versus the Swiss Authorities.
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Sorry, but to confuse you it was not my intension.
My wife will def gonna attend business school but she needs C1 level of german to do so. At present her level is b2. Hence she will work/study till next year summer. and after she will be f/t student.
You said top thread she spoke fluent German....
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You said top thread she spoke fluent German....

I guess someone who got B1 or B2 certificate is considered to be pretty fluent in German. And other thing is that one needs C1 certificate to be elligible for Bachelors/Masters.

And being Director of a company doesn't stop someone to study in a university. Its up to you how you balance everything.
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