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I am Swiss, but can't bring my wife and son into the country

I was living with my wife (South African) and my son (South African) in Cape Town for years. Because of a job offer I moved back to Zurich a few weeks ago and handed in the Visa application for my wife and son at the Embassy in Cape Town before I left.

I was told it will take 6 to 8 weeks and they will get visa for "Familiennachzug". I told them that my marriage and birth in not registered yet in Switzerland, but I applied for the required documents (full marriage and full birth certificate) a year ago and I am still waiting. As supporting documents I handed in marriage certificate and birth certificate from my son, just an abridged version and not the full version.

Now, the Migrationsamt in Zurich wants the confirmation of the registration of marriage and birth here in Switzerland, which I am only able to get once home affairs in South Africa will issues the two docs. That might happen next week or next years, I just don't know.

I have a permanent job, can provide for my family, have a apartment, etc. We lived already together in Switzerland before we moved to SA and got married. My wife was married before to another Swiss and already had a B Permit.

Do anybody know of a way to get my wife and my boy without registration of marriage?

Any help or ideas are much appreciated. I miss them terribly!!!

Thanks!
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Old 19.05.2011, 23:10
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Re: I am Swiss, but can't bring my wife and son into the country

Unfortunately you have not followed the standard procedure.

The procedure is:

1. When considering moving to Switzerland, organise marriage certificates etc first. It is best to register marriage certs upon time of marriage. If not, then can still do so anytime just this can be time consuming depending on circumstance.
2. When certificates arrive (if not previously registered), apply for Spouse B Permit (now schengen visa for non EUs) for your family, and provide supporting documents (photos, police checks etc). Marriage certificate from memory needs to be registered prior to applying for B permit.
3. Wait about 2 months for processing. When processed embassy contacts you and gives you a window timeframe of entry (about 3 months usually). You will need to submit passports to embassy for once entry permit, allow a couple weeks turnaround time, might be faster in your area.
4. Enter Switzerland with once entry permit, and then register at your gemeinde
5. Go to migrationsamt for Biometrics (B permits are now biometric so they take fingerprints for the pass)
6. Wait another 2 - 4 weeks for permits to be sent to your address.

The only way forward is for your wife to get the paperperwork together, and then submit this to the embassy. Your wife and son will have to wait for the B permit processing time (about 2 months, maybe less).

If in doubt, call migrationsamt for clarification on possibility of fast tracking process, but this is remote.
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Now, the Migrationsamt in Zurich wants the confirmation of the registration of marriage and birth here in Switzerland, which I am only able to get once home affairs in South Africa will issues the two docs. That might happen next week or next years, I just don't know.
Sorry to hear.
Have you been in touch yet with the Swiss embassy/consular office in SA?
Ask them to apply some pressure on South African Home Affairs to issue those papers.

If this doesn't work get in touch with the EDA to assist you.
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2. When certificates arrive (if not previously registered), apply for Spouse B Permit (now schengen visa for non EUs) for your family, and provide supporting documents (photos, police checks etc). Marriage certificate from memory needs to be registered prior to applying for B permit.
Just a small correction - the B permit is not replaced by the Schengen Visa. The B permit is required to live in Switzerland, the Schengen visa is required to enter Switzerland. Two different things. Both must be obtained.
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Sorry to hear.
Have you been in touch yet with the Swiss embassy/consular office in SA?
Ask them to apply some pressure on South African Home Affairs to issue those papers.

If this doesn't work get in touch with the EDA to assist you.

I have already contacted Embassy in Cape Town and the friendly reply was that they can't get involved with SA home affairs and they hope we'll get the docs soon

I am doubting the EDA will assist.

My wife sending emails and is calling home affairs on a daily base. Just hope and pray we'll it soon.

Thanks for the advise.
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Just a small correction - the B permit is not replaced by the Schengen Visa. The B permit is required to live in Switzerland, the Schengen visa is required to enter Switzerland. Two different things. Both must be obtained.
Agreed, but the form that one fills out is a Schengen labelled form. This essentially provides application for B Permit and schengen requirements. It used to be just a B Permit form.
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Old 20.05.2011, 17:43
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I have already contacted Embassy in Cape Town and the friendly reply was that they can't get involved with SA home affairs and they hope we'll get the docs soon

I am doubting the EDA will assist.

My wife sending emails and is calling home affairs on a daily base. Just hope and pray we'll it soon.

Thanks for the advise.
This is right its the responsibility of the applicator to sort this out, the swiss embassy / consulate will not get involved in foreign matters.
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